To those that mock you with "Why couldn't you Googles that"?

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johnmusacha

Yeah that's one thing Wikipedia is great for.  Cool maps.  Neat-o graphs and charts too.

There's thousands of people all over the world slaving away creating those maps and charts, as well as original photos.  I myself have created many picture files for Wikipedia.

ilikeflags

you say stupid shit musacha

johnmusacha
ilikeflags wrote:

you say stupid shit musacha

Thanks.  Relax guy.  Chill.  Reset.  Empathy.

kyriazis

Sure wikipedia has some bias. But everything that a person researches has bias, from research papers and thesises, prominent theories of the universe, recipes for cooking, and in terms of this forum topic: advice on how to act.

After all the question of the article confronts googling with forums.
Saying googling/wikipedia is flawed because of bias...okay. But at the same time you must admit that forums are almost nothing but biased.

RonaldJosephCote

                I like flags;   don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel!

trysts
kyriazis wrote:

Sure wikipedia has some bias. But everything that a person researches has bias, from research papers and thesises, prominent theories of the universe, recipes for cooking, and in terms of this forum topic: advice on how to act.

After all the question of the article confronts googling with forums.
Saying googling/wikipedia is flawed because of bias...okay. But at the same time you must admit that forums are almost nothing but biased.

I meant political bias to the point of deliberately suppressing information on political events in order to control the narrative of the event. Such as what propaganda and disinformation is used for.

RonaldJosephCote

              Trysts; its only my opinion. I'm not trying to start an argument, but I think the only people who do that are China, and North Korea.

trysts

Your opinion is pretty worthless, but that's only my opinion.

RonaldJosephCote

                    Oh don't hold back sweetie, tell us how you REALLY feel.

johnmusacha

The man has to suppress information from the press and researchers, not Wikipedia.  Wikipedia does not gather its own information.  It synthesises information from secondary sources.

RonaldJosephCote

                 ya know, I've tried to be polite, and apologize on more than one accasion, but if you want to be pig-headed, and stubburn, so be it. Go back to your bottle. Its people like you that make these forums a crummy place to be. Too bad YOU wearn't on the plane.

johnmusacha

What did I say now?  What plane?

RonaldJosephCote

               I was talking to the movie critic.

trysts
johnmusacha wrote:

The man has to suppress information from the press and researchers, not Wikipedia.  Wikipedia does not gather its own information.  It synthesises information from secondary sources.

But, like you mentioned previously, in the case of the Israel/Palestine issue, the editors themselves could frame the issue in such a way where facts are suppressed in order to impress upon the reader only one side of the issue.

rooperi

RJC, you're a really nasty piece of work. The forums only started being crummy after you arrived.

johnmusacha
trysts wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

The man has to suppress information from the press and researchers, not Wikipedia.  Wikipedia does not gather its own information.  It synthesises information from secondary sources.

But, like you mentioned previously, in the case of the Israel/Palestine issue, the editors themselves could frame the issue in such a way where facts are suppressed in order to impress upon the reader only one side of the issue.

By "the man" I meant the government.  The editors messing around on Wikipedia aren't suppressing anything.  Each edit on Wikipedia is saved.  Each change and revision is saved.  Click on the "view history" tab on any article and you'll see what I mean.

trysts
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

                 ya know, I've tried to be polite, and apologize on more than one accasion, but if you want to be pig-headed, and stubburn, so be it. Go back to your bottle. Its people like you that make these forums a crummy place to be. Too bad YOU wearn't on the plane.

You have an ugly part of you which you enjoy posting in the forums. Where's your inner 'shut up' button?

RonaldJosephCote

             Roop; I apologized to you, and you accepted it. She's German, she just wants to kill Jews.

soldier9599

Every media outlet includes some form of political bias, including Wikipedia. Wikipedia as a whole is not heavily biased, but there are individual areas that may be biased one way or the other. Sometimes disagreeing parties go back and forth in edit wars, so it depends what day of the week you are looking at it to determine how biased it is. This is actually fairly common there, but overall, disagreeing groups often balance each other out. The fact is, most media outlets don't benefit from anyone in the world being able to refute false claims for a large scale audience to decide the validity of. Many talk pages at Wikipedia go through very careful debates to ensure neutrality. Granted, the system is far from perfect, but when it comes to compiling a list of most biased media outlets, Wikipedia is far from the top.

Personally, I consider Wikipedia to be an invaluable resource. There's nothing better at giving you a general idea of any topic you can think of, and often it goes into a lot of technical detail. When it comes to physics pages I almost never see information I have a problem with. Since my area of research is heavily based in physics, I almost never use Wikipedia because its information is overly basic for someone in specialized research. Wikipedia should never be used as a be all and end all resource to get an expert level understanding, but it is a great place to start, especially when you can find nice citations to explore at the bottom of the page.

johnmusacha

Trysts is German?  She just shot up about 100 points in my book!