Unrated players getting initial 2000 ratings

Grammar guy: Are you referring to my use of “used to”? It’s correct, isn’t it? 

Well, he did say "gammar" and didn't type English with a capital letter or punctuate anything... so I wouldn't worry too much about him.

Paragraphs, please... that is quite a wall of text.

The current system is fine. If someone has a high rating they probably studied the game quite a bit. No one gets good at chess instantly. It's a ton of effort spread out over time.

ErwinDunan: Well said. Thank you.

" In crazy 2020 chess is booming and a lot of beginners just know the basic rules and know nothing about rating and choose a high start rating just because it is... High. I share the thoughts its unfair to those who worked hard for years reaching this level. "

Being able to freely select 2000 as a starting point is deeply silly and a bad idea for all sorts of practical reasons. Framing it as a matter of fairness seems petty though. Probably more an issue is the clueless beginner selecting 2000 not knowing the significance and then getting absolutely nuked down to like 500 and quitting the game because that would be demoralizing. 

Wait... they can select it? Definitely not a good starting point. Maybe I missed out on what this is actually about.

It makes sense if you assume a level of knowledge and good faith. Being a 2000ish player and having to plow through people from a starting point of 1200 would have to be just tedious. 

Unfortunately, these are humans on the internet so all bets are off there...

So someone can just select their daily rating start? I only play rapid so I'm a bit ignorant.

It is a glicko-2 rating most likely so I suppose if they really aren't deserving of that rating that they would drop down quite fast. But that starting point is a bit crazy.

I guess. I'd never see it in blitz/rapid even if it were available because that is out of my league. I played a daily tournament for the first time in forever and multiple people with exactly 2000 ratings was a bit of a red flag. 

If you're not actually 2000, you quickly drop below. 

I legit just made my account, started at 2000, won one against a 1900, got a draw in a worse position against a 2300?, lost two completely won games on time against 2200s+, and won a dead lost game on time against a 2000 and am somehow 2100.

Given my results, don't think this is accurate - probably will drop below 2000, since I'm way too slow.

Yes, a brand new beginner can pick his daily rating as 2000 and then play other beginners with 2000 ratings and climb higher. The ones I have seen did it all innocently, as they had no understanding of ratings, but nonetheless they would show up in team matches and be paired with true experts and masters.....causing their team to quickly lose 2 points and to waste their and their opponent's time.    I am particularly disappointed because just a few months ago I had true beginners to chess and this site wanting to join our team's matches as unrated players with a 400, 800 or 1200 initial rating. The site blocked them from joining our team matches until they had completed some games on their own as individual vs. individual with no team involvement. I had to scramble and find other beginners for them to play, then wait days, weeks or months, and then finally the site would let them join our team matches with their new rating. 

They aren't talking about Blitz I don't think. I think I started at 1200 in Rapid when I joined ~27 Days ago. 

You can choose the "level" you start at, and it sets a default rating across all time controls.

I see, that makes sense. Since I see some people start at different ranks now that I think about it. Now I am not even sure that I started at 1200. mhh

That's funny :) . Now I understand why I checkmated some 1800+ players in less than 10 moves. True that they can basically get any rating and simply after playing the games they will get to their level. Just there's a great difference in playing strength, which I did not understand. Now I do, either players are "real" 1800 (they get there from initial rating 1200 I guess) or they just go down from 2000 they claimed just for image or dunno why and they will stop in their real rating which can be whatever, like 1300, less. So some games then are good and interresting, some where opponents have under 15% of accuracy, meaning totally crazy..

As far as I can tell, when someone joins Chess.com, they have their choice of four skill levels:  New to Chess; Beginner; Intermediate, and Advanced.  What's the distinction between Intermediate and Advanced?  I have no idea.  For example, my Daily and Rapid ratings put me in the top 10% of the active players.  Intuitively, I would say that this makes me advanced.  However, because I am familiar with the rating system, I think that Intermediate is more appropriate.  How is a newcomer supposed to know?

I know, I agree

I think that this whole thing is overblown.  If I were to join Chess.com today with a 2000 rating, my rating would drop to its current value within five to ten games.  The only way this could be avoided is if I were always paired with an over-rated, weaker player.  The probability of this happening is close to zero.