Perhaps 1315checkm8 isnt aware of other draw formats, like perpetual check, which often are hard to detect, or are much less looked out for by your opponents. And no, there have been grandmasters who have made WORSE blunders than causing a stalemate, so your statement is so embarassingly wrong its hard to read. Please do not post garbage like that twice. Especially in such a condescending voice like that.
We don't need no stinking "Resign" button!!
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Do you want me to post it yet again? It's completely true, and there's no need to bitch at me just because you don't know how to play chess. Like I said, draws like that may result, but you have no right to expect that sort of blunder from your opponent unless you just look for players that suck to play against.
1315checkm8 wrote:
Do you want me to post it yet again? It's completely true, and there's no need to bitch at me just because you don't know how to play chess. Like I said, draws like that may result, but you have no right to expect that sort of blunder from your opponent unless you just look for players that suck to play against.
First of all, I demand that you understand that there are kids aged 13 on this forum and that foul and crude language will not be tolerated for any reason. I politely ask you to grow up. Hopefully, that isn't too difficult for you.
Secondly, you have every RIGHT in the world to expect a blunder from your opponent. Perhaps in 99.99% of games against high rated players it is impractical and unreasonable but you have every RIGHT. You clearly do not understand what the word RIGHT means. But by all means, waste our time and post your bad argument for a third time.
First, someone at YOUR playing level might be able to hope for a blunder, but at my level there's no reason to expect or wait for it. You obviously play crappy players who routinely make these mistakes (as you probably do yourself); therefore, by all means continue to play each and every game to the end. I, however, have better ways to spend my time.
Second, don't bitch about my language unless you have the power to punish me. Which you don't.
Third, if you think my argument is a waste of time then shut up, get off the forum, and don't read it. Capiche?
Olimar wrote:
It's nice to know people like The_Wizard misunderstand people they disagree with and take the next step of calling them "idiots". People like him are why there is so much division out there. Disagree with views, not people who support them. Such awfully crude statements are not helpful to anyone.
You're insane. It's impossible to disagree with a view without disagreeing with the people that hold it. That's why we're all on here arguing: because we disagree with each other.
1315checkm8 wrote:
First, someone at YOUR playing level might be able to hope for a blunder, but at my level there's no reason to expect or wait for it. You obviously play crappy players who routinely make these mistakes (as you probably do yourself); therefore, by all means continue to play each and every game to the end. I, however, have better ways to spend my time. Second, don't bitch about my language unless you have the power to punish me. Which you don't. Third, if you think my argument is a waste of time then shut up, get off the forum, and don't read it. Capiche?
Before I respond to this "post" as you can hardly call it that, I must comment on the overwhelming arrogance this person has. To assume thata all players ranked below him, lets say around 1500, are "crappy" is insulting, not true and quite disrespectful.
Now to his actual points. First of all, I dont play crappy players. end of argument. Perhaps its not so obvious to those whose mind isnt so clouded by self-importance.
You make a poor argument to defend your juvenile language. Clearly, you dont understand anything about etiquette, so dont make a hypocrit out of yourself. You claim that because I "dont have the power to stop you" that I should not comment on it. This argument could be used in times of political unrest to rape, murder, steal, etc. Basically you are saying that as long as nobody can stop you, you can do whatever you want. Interesting argument anarchist :)
Unfortunately for me, I like to read what people who disagree with me have to say. Maybe you are right, and that I should not read what you have to say, but I find that rude, to directly challenge someone and then not even read what they have to say.
Your following post begins with an outrageous comment. "Your Insane!but then becomes surprisingly more civil are you, politely, disagree with my views that people disagree with other people. I much, without overusing the word, disagree with your opinion. You dont disagree with the noun of a person. What i mean is, you arent disagreeing with the human body. You are disgareeing with what they think. You disagree with their convictions, and thoughts. This point doesn't matter to me to be of too much importance, but theres no reason for people to divide each other in opposing camps and oppose each OTHER instead we should just respectfully decline to agree with others views.
To sum up this lengthy post. I would ask for you 1315checkm8 to watch your language. I am sure most of the people reading this would agree with me. You arent in high school or college. You are on a publicc forum with minors on it. Please be careful of what you say, we dont need mommy or daddy to punish you. We just need you to behave on your own. Thanks
First, it's not arrogance to say I'm better than most (if not all) <1500 players, because I am. Sorry if that annoys you; if you don't believe me I'll play you some time and kick your ass to prove it.
Second, I did not claim that you shouldn't comment on my language. If you found it offensive you should say so, which you did. What I said was that you have no right to sound as though what I say is up to you, because it isn't. There are people everywhere who can control (to a certain extent) what I do, but happily you are not one of them; therefore what I said was perfectly true and logical.
Thirdly, 'views' and 'beliefs' cannot exist without the people who adhere to them, so it would not be much of a stretch at all to say that the people and the views are one and the same. A person's beliefs define who they are and what they do. You may not (for some inexplicable reason) like the idea of 'dividing people into opposing camps', but any time you disagree with someone's beliefs or views, that is what you've already done. To try to avoid this entirely is impossible.
But you're right, I probably should watch my language. Next time I feel the urge to cuss out your ignorance, I'll probably just send you a private message.
It doesn't matter, I like the sweet sensation of delivering checkmate so it's all gravy. Plus it's good to toy with them to.
lmao @ that game!!!!
1315checkm8 wrote:
First, it's not arrogance to say I'm better than most (if not all) <1500 players, because I am. Sorry if that annoys you; if you don't believe me I'll play you some time and kick your ass to prove it. Second, I did not claim that you shouldn't comment on my language. If you found it offensive you should say so, which you did. What I said was that you have no right to sound as though what I say is up to you, because it isn't. There are people everywhere who can control (to a certain extent) what I do, but happily you are not one of them; therefore what I said was perfectly true and logical. Thirdly, 'views' and 'beliefs' cannot exist without the people who adhere to them, so it would not be much of a stretch at all to say that the people and the views are one and the same. A person's beliefs define who they are and what they do. You may not (for some inexplicable reason) like the idea of 'dividing people into opposing camps', but any time you disagree with someone's beliefs or views, that is what you've already done. To try to avoid this entirely is impossible. But you're right, I probably should watch my language. Next time I feel the urge to cuss out your ignorance, I'll probably just send you a private message.
Ill start with the last thing you said. I have a question to ask you. How old are you? The last time I heard someone say they were going to cuss at people in private messages, the person was 13 years old. You are seriously the most juvenile person I have ever met. Your arrogance is astounding. You think you can say and do anything you want as long as the "police" do not get you. This kind of attitude is disturbing at best. If you do not think you blatant use of words like crappy players "Get it this time? or do you want me to put it in smaller words so you can understand?" Tell me right now. DO you think that last quote is not arrogant at all? Not even slight condescending? If you think it is perfectly normal and respectful than I fear for you. (sorry if that sound condescending). and you are wrong once again. If i feel your language is AT ALL abusive to me, I have FULL RIGHTS to demand your words abolished instantly. I have already asked that of the chess.com staff and they quickly replied with an immdediate deletion of that particular post. So dont be fooled. Equally, if you think I am abusing you in any way; you have FULL POWER to absoultely cause my post to be obliterated. But once again, your view that you can say whatever you want merely reflects more upon your character and your self-importance.
I honestly believe you could trash me in chess no doubt. That doesnt mean who i play is crappy and it doesn't mean you can just call them that. Because a grandmaster with your attitude would probably think your an absoultely horrid and worthless player who plays against "crappy" opponents. So please watch what you say. Especially in a private message, because if you send me one with any vulgarity, you will be reported as an abuser.
Azures wrote:
A chess player that doesn't understand the "art" of resigning doesn't understand the game of chess. It's a matter of considering your opponent's ability and timing. There is honor and respect involved...
I was playing with a friend of mine a game of chess. at one point I planned a decisive attack involving a queen sac! I didn't calculate everything out and he found the refutation: the basis of my forced mate was the remaing forces of the battery, two rooks so he check'd me with his rook and then traded one of mine. I knew he'll win but... I never resign and I calculated a variation wich led to a perpetual check with my last two pieces (rook and bishop) He had a queen, a rook, a knight and a bishop. so we drew the game. belive me, there are many checkmates that don't have the beauty of that perpetual check. so... good for me I didn't resign.
Once again Olimar, I reiterate the fact that you have absolutely no control over what I say or do. The best you can do is inform the people who can control it to some extent, but you yourself have no authority whatsoever to abolish my posts or exercise any control over my actions. This does NOT mean that I can do whatever I want, and it was stupid of you to jump to that conclusion; maybe you should take a class in logic/philosophy if you ever go to college.
Yes, my posts were "slightly condescending". That does not make them arrogant. What I said was completely true; how does that qualify as "arrogance"? No, I do not think my posts were at all normal, and they certainly were not respectful. But you have proved yourself unworthy of my respect. You claim to be incensed about my actions, then you stoop to my level with the posts that you leave in response. How dare you pretend not to be a filthy hypocrite?
By the way, I'm pretty sure we've gotten way off the topic that this thread was based on. Congratulations.
And I CAN do whatever I want if I don't get caught: doesn't mean I should, just means I'm capable of it. So is anyone else. But you seem to think that I believe no rules apply to me. How you would have pulled that out of any of my posts, I can't imagine. However, you certainly haven't demonstrated any decent powers of reasoning, intuition, or interpolation, so how you came to that conclusion is anyone's guess.
1315checkm8 wrote:
maybe you should take a class in logic/philosophy if you ever go to college.
There are plenty of logic and philosophy at the college I go to - Cornell University. Don't worry I got into this university on my ability to make cohesive arguments. Your right, I should take a course, after all I am at such a University which offers them.
Is that supposed to impress me? you obviously can't make a cohesive argument, so you must have bribed the admissions officer or something
bribed the admissions officer? when I got 36K in financial aid? Your arguments are worse than a child's. Now im convinced you aren't even 13 years old. Obviously you didnt know about my financial aid but man your arguments are just plain awful. Maybe your just jealous? But i probbaly will take up your advice and enroll in a logic course. I have heard they are good here.
Obviously this has completely gone off-topic so I propose we end our "discussion" here. Clearly your wild accusations have become mere words, with nothing behind them. There is no intellectual reason to continue it so I won't. It is sad it had to end this way though. However, I encourage people who want to continue this actual thread to proceed to do so after this post as if the last 10 did not even occur (lol)
Funny...I was going to make the exact same remark about YOUR arguments: they are complete nonsense, without a shred of cohesion or intelligence; every point you try to make is just grasping at straws. The sooner you get into a logic course, the better.
p.s. you probably got financial aid b/c your dad is poor and doesn't have a job, not because you're intelligent (which you're obviously not)
Sep 16, 2008
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Rael wrote: Don't the never-resigners open themselves up to a special kind of torture?
If the Resign option were taken away (by FIDE), some friendly games would never end. Without recording moves or positions, the 50-move rule won't apply. The list of Current Games on chess.com could easily reach hundreds for nearly everybody eventually. If the time between moves were extended to a few years on such games, it need not be so arduous to keep m-o-v-i-n-g, v--e--r--y s---l---o---w---l---y.
Sep 16, 2008
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lrYRadiance wrote: they could offer a draw, honey.
You're quite right, sugar? I was mixing this thread up with the: "We don't need no smelly DRAW button!" discussion.
Is there any correlation, would you say, between reluctance to resign and disinclination to (offer or accept) a draw?
And AGAIN I say...
"Unless you just play the crappiest people you can find, that's never going to work. Any semi-decent player will know how to avoid that. There are occasions when even the best line of play will lead to stalemate, but you can't expect this to result from a blunder by your opponent."
Get it this time? or do you want me to put it in smaller words so you can understand?