What is Gatekeeping?

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IJustCantEven
Heard about it in a forum but I don’t understand
Martin_Stahl
IJustCantEven wrote:
Heard about it in a forum but I don’t understand

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatekeeping_(communication)

medelpad
You think we are gonna tell you that?
V_Awful_Chess
llama_l wrote:

In the context of chess it became a buzzword during the first Pogchamps when Finegold pointed out (accurately) that XqC was a talentless piece of garbage (comments which certainly aged well, reaction streamers steal content while producing nothing of value). White knights got some milage out of pretending old GMs like Finegold were trying to prevent new young players from enjoying chess or gaining legitimacy, but after a few months people seemed bored of the idea and you didn't hear much about it.

Since then beginners have sometimes use accusations of gatekeeping as a cudgel whenever it's pointed out they don't know what they're talking about. This is in spite of the fact that the largest chess organizations cater primarily to beginners.

XqC is obviously not terribly talented at chess, but while Finegold has done lots of good; his comments were in bad taste. It's not really gatekeeping but it is elitist.

Some people enjoy certain kinds of jokes and excited expressions alongside their chess. Yes, it may not be to your personal taste, but so what? Let people enjoy what they want to enjoy.

You have no obligation to ever watch XqC or Pogchamps.

Jenium

It's basically an argument used by chess entertainment streamers (usually not very strong players) against people (usually strong masters) who take chess seriously and focus on topics like improvement, chess history etc. rather than on performing 30s dances on TikTok with a chess board to "popularize the game".

magipi
Cirrin wrote:

janko thinks there is some algorithmic conspiracy

No he doesn't. That guy is a 100% troll.

sawdof

So it's not where we keep bill

josephyossi
IJustCantEven wrote:
Heard about it in a forum but I don’t understand

you dont need to know

IJustCantEven
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IJustCantEven
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Ziggy_Zugzwang

Noam Chomsky is a gatekeeper. James Corbett made a video on him. He presumes to be an outsider critiquing the system. Evidence shows he won't critique the Federal Reserve or 9/11 for example.

https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/episode-285-meet-noam-chomsky-academic-a81

Many doctors coming out now and admitting the jab was harmful might be “gatekeepers”; trying to steer the narrative down a path that can be controlled. E.g. that it was all because of “negligence” and “lack of regulation” rather than wilful life shortening….

Apologies to all you normies for my post…(NOT)

IJustCantEven
wdym doctors
magipi
IJustCantEven wrote:
wdym doctors

Yes, yes, encourage the troll. Excellent idea, keep going.

magipi
Cirrin wrote:
magipi wrote:
IJustCantEven wrote:
wdym doctors

Yes, yes, encourage the troll. Excellent idea, keep going.

How is @Ziggy_Zugzwang a troll ?

Just read his post, and all will be clear.

magipi
Cirrin wrote:
magipi wrote:
Cirrin wrote:
magipi wrote:
IJustCantEven wrote:
wdym doctors

Yes, yes, encourage the troll. Excellent idea, keep going.

How is @Ziggy_Zugzwang a troll ?

Just read his post, and all will be clear.

huh? it seems like his example shows the real meaning of the word "gatekeeper" (or am I wrong?).

And if not, it seems like a harmless joke

It's an example of an insane conspiracy theory followed by another insane conspiracy theory. And the proof behind it is a comedy late night show that was either made by Stephen Colbert or James Corden?

Yeah, maybe it's a joke.

IJustCantEven
wait so its all a joke?
IJustCantEven
Wait if gatekeeping is an argument then why is it called gatekeeping?
BoofinHard

Ghostbusters is all I can think about. " Are you the gatekeeper?" He says to the horse.

Martin_Stahl
IJustCantEven wrote:
Wait if gatekeeping is an argument then why is it called gatekeeping?

A gatekeeper attempts to keep others out of whatever is being argued about if the gatekeeper feels the person isn't qualified to take part in that thing.; i.e. manning the gates to keep people out.

BigChessplayer665
IJustCantEven wrote:
Heard about it in a forum but I don’t understand

Gate keeping is q term loaed janko invented

Basically it is when you are gatekept from gaining elo by other people because of smurfs or cheaters (that isn't a thing )

even if smurfs and cheaters do exist