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What is the difference between 1600 and 1700?

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AunTheKnight

One has 7 and the other has 6.

MichaelGosselin
B1ZMARK wrote:
Pineapple-pizza37 wrote:

and Is there any know-how to reach 1700 easily?

nope!

I'll disagree. Find a copy of "My System" by Aron Nimzowitch, read it cover-to-cover, and apply what you learn.

little_guinea_pig

Yeah, see, the problem is "applying what you've learned" that's the tricky part...

JackRoach

I wouldn't know.

JackRoach

Maybe the 1700 is better than the 1600, but that might not be true.

llama47

You can get to 1700 in different ways, so there's no way to know how a 1700 is better than a 1600 unless we're talking about two specific people, and there's no formula to get to 1700.

The only definite thing is you're required to have formed good calculation habits... you can form them much earlier, but if you haven't formed them at all, then you'll be stuck under 1700 no matter what else you learn or how long you play.

By calculation habits I mean checking whether your opponent's move was a blunder, and checking whether your intended move is safe. Of course everyone does this sometimes, but I mean you do it as a habit, so you do it nearly 100% of the time in nearly 100% of your games.

BringBackDemon1
little_guinea_pig wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

i still can't play endgames lmao

as in "1600s don't know what the philidor and lucena positions are"

i actually do not remember the philidor or lucena positions

please end me

BringBackDemon1
MichaelGosselin wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Pineapple-pizza37 wrote:

and Is there any know-how to reach 1700 easily?

nope!

I'll disagree. Find a copy of "My System" by Aron Nimzowitch, read it cover-to-cover, and apply what you learn.

"easily"

that is the hard part

JackRoach
B1ZMARK wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

i still can't play endgames lmao

as in "1600s don't know what the philidor and lucena positions are"

i actually do not remember the philidor or lucena positions

please end me

I also did.

Then forgot.

little_guinea_pig
B1ZMARK wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

i still can't play endgames lmao

as in "1600s don't know what the philidor and lucena positions are"

i actually do not remember the philidor or lucena positions

please end me

i remember them but I don't know anything about the king being on the short side of the pawn or the long side or whatev

i hate rook endgames

llama47
B1ZMARK wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

i still can't play endgames lmao

as in "1600s don't know what the philidor and lucena positions are"

i actually do not remember the philidor or lucena positions

please end me

What they don't tell beginners is 9 out of 10 times you don't need the lucena position. You can just play something like this:

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I've never used the lucena method OTB or in online blitz (although it's easy to remember, so I know how)

But I have used the philidor rook draw both in blitz and OTB. That's a good one to know.

R and 3 vs R and 3+1 are also very useful to know for both blitz and OTB.

JackRoach
little_guinea_pig wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

i still can't play endgames lmao

as in "1600s don't know what the philidor and lucena positions are"

i actually do not remember the philidor or lucena positions

please end me

i remember them but I don't know anything about the king being on the short side of the pawn or the long side or whatev

i hate rook endgames

If you hate rook endgames...

Then trade them for knights and bishops, and pawns.

little_guinea_pig

bruh lol

i want to at least have a chance

JackRoach
little_guinea_pig wrote:

bruh lol

i want to at least have a chance

What? You want to win?
Be more specific.

llama47

There's another way to do it that's more common which is...

... play risky / bad openings so that you (or your opponent) has a big advantage by move 15... those games rarely reach the endgame.

BringBackDemon1
llama47 wrote:

There's another way to do it that's more common which is...

... play risky / bad openings so that you (or your opponent) has a big advantage by move 15... those games rarely reach the endgame.

so that's why I suck at endgames, I never get to practice

JackRoach
B1ZMARK wrote:
llama47 wrote:

There's another way to do it that's more common which is...

... play risky / bad openings so that you (or your opponent) has a big advantage by move 15... those games rarely reach the endgame.

so that's why I suck at endgames, I never get to practice

Because you play blitz and bullet.

llama47

I mean... Rapport got away with it up to 2700, so it's not a terrible way to play.

It's just the higher you go the more of a genius you have to be to pull it off tongue.png

(and I'm sure any 2700 GM can play the endgame "perfectly" -- at least to our eyes it will seem that way)

BringBackDemon1
JackRoach wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
llama47 wrote:

There's another way to do it that's more common which is...

... play risky / bad openings so that you (or your opponent) has a big advantage by move 15... those games rarely reach the endgame.

so that's why I suck at endgames, I never get to practice

Because you play blitz and bullet.

lmao i blew this one easy endgame

 

llama47

"Big oof" -- as the kids say.