AndyClifton wrote:
pathfinder416 wrote:
You'd think The Brain might've figured out that "try and" is grammatically incorrect.
It is?
Of course it is. "try to" is the correct way to say it, "try and" is a grammatical error.
What's all this about non-resigners about?
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IvanOffalich wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:
pathfinder416 wrote:
You'd think The Brain might've figured out that "try and" is grammatically incorrect.
It is?
Of course it is. "try to" is the correct way to say it, "try and" is a grammatical error.
Try and remember that, Andy.
IvanOffalich wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:
pathfinder416 wrote:
You'd think The Brain might've figured out that "try and" is grammatically incorrect.
It is?
Of course it is. "try to" is the correct way to say it, "try and" is a grammatical error.
Of course you're a grammar nazi. Either is fine in my book.
AndyClifton wrote:
IvanOffalich wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:
pathfinder416 wrote:
You'd think The Brain might've figured out that "try and" is grammatically incorrect.
It is?
Of course it is. "try to" is the correct way to say it, "try and" is a grammatical error.
Of course you're a grammar nazi. Either is fine in my book.
You never know what might get a person killed in a post-apocalyptic world.
Loomis, again, I know it's frustrating, but you should prepare to have to play (or wait or whatever) for the whole time if necessary.
Well, he lost the game, so he was the "loozer" at that point...
Again, I never said it was ethical by any means, I am saying that, unfortunately, it is a part of Live Chess life (there is a difference between time-wasters and non-resigners).
pathfinder416 wrote:
You'd think The Brain might've figured out that "try and" is grammatically incorrect.
In my own immature manner, I have adopted a certain practice against non-resigners. (1) When I have a mate-in-one and it's my move, I send a message in the chat window indicating the final move. (2) I wait for my opponent to resign. Cut my nails, check laundry, respond to email, etc. (3) I deliver the mate if the game is still going and my time is down to 2 or 3 seconds.
What astounds me is how few resignations occur ... not even 1 in 10.
If it's your move and there's a mate in one, why would you delay? Asking for a resignation when it's in your power to end it immediately isn't courtesy, it's taunting. I sure wouldn't resign against an opponent who's baiting me like that.
As for myself, I feel that it is more courteous to allow my opponent the pleasure of the mate despite my utmost resistance. So I'll usually only resign if the position is extremely disadvantageous but capable of being dragged out for far longer than necessary. I feel the same way when I'm in the other position; I'm always vaguely disappointed when an opponent resigns. It makes it feel unfinished.
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Well in this case I'm inclined to agree with the majority, up to a point because to just run out the clock is not very nice. However one should also consider the Psychological aspect to this situation ( the mind game within the mind game lol ). For example if you have shown yourself to be impatient by leaving a " please hurry up " message or by playing instantly after you opponent gets around to making his moves then you have sent out a signal that could be used against you. Your opponent may take the chance that you will grow tired of waiting and resign so he gets the victory ( not ethical but were he in the same room he would yell " Psyche " ).
well i agree as far as this if you know that you cant win why prolong it. I just finished a game where I resigned cause i had 6 pawns and a bishop vs. two bishops knight queen and 4 pawns. My cousin said I shouldnt have quit cause I had six lil soldiers (thats what we call pawns) waiting to become grown men! I say to each his own just dont prolong the game if you know theres nothing you can do
It happens in turn-based too. In one game, I've got two queens on the board against his loan king, and I've been waiting two days for him to move his king out of check.
Is the game going on right now? You can do conditional moves.
Waiting your opponent's out is basically a parting shot at him, ie, "you may win but not without a truckload of frustration".
Ethical or not, it's fun to do. Especially when you resign one second before time out, to show that you're really taunting him and not just vacationing or something.
checkmateibeatu wrote:
Is the game going on right now? You can do conditional moves.
I did for the next move.
helltank, that's not something I'd openly admit if I were in your shoes...
cabadenwurt wrote:
Well in this case I'm inclined to agree with the majority, up to a point because to just run out the clock is not very nice. However one should also consider the Psychological aspect to this situation ( the mind game within the mind game lol ). For example if you have shown yourself to be impatient by leaving a " please hurry up " message or by playing instantly after you opponent gets around to making his moves then you have sent out a signal that could be used against you. Your opponent may take the chance that you will grow tired of waiting and resign so he gets the victory ( not ethical but were he in the same room he would yell " Psyche " ).
Somebody that desperate for a win needs their head examined. Big time.
DrExtreme wrote:
pathfinder416 wrote:
In my own immature manner, I have adopted a certain practice against non-resigners. (1) When I have a mate-in-one and it's my move, I send a message in the chat window indicating the final move. (2) I wait for my opponent to resign. Cut my nails, check laundry, respond to email, etc. (3) I deliver the mate if the game is still going and my time is down to 2 or 3 seconds.
What astounds me is how few resignations occur ... not even 1 in 10.
If it's your move and there's a mate in one, why would you delay? Asking for a resignation when it's in your power to end it immediately isn't courtesy, it's taunting. I sure wouldn't resign against an opponent who's baiting me like that.
I give my opponent full information, and it is then FULLY in his/her power to either resign or hope a meteorite strikes my house. It's not taunting, it's "The game will end in one of two ways, I leave the choice to you." And choose they do.
But simply sitting there and letting your time run out isn't playing. I agree to PLAY for the entire time control. I don't agree to have you waste my time for the entire time control.
I would like to use the time I have for playing chess to actually play chess. Not watch your clock run out, or watch you shuffle your king around while I checkmate you. This is just a waste of time and is not playing chess. Obviously I will still win either way, but I would like to get on to the next game, on to the next challenge, on with playing chess.