Why does noone play pawn b5 on the caro-kann?

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BruderChess

On the caro-kann defence when the passed pawn variation of e4 c6 d4 d5 e5...noone ever responds with b5...i know everyone plays bishop f5 which is totally unsound and cramped...after b5 white has too realize that blacks attack is queenside and could respon with pawn a4 which i get very rare i always get pawn a3 which i then play pawn a5 completeing my queenside pawn rush...i useually put my bishop on a6 too hold down the pawn while i push for pawn c5 as in the french defence...i have had much success with this defence from the caro-kann and i dont know why it isnt on any sites or databased...for the medium rated player this is a good opening because most people expect Bf5 and a center game with black having a cramped position.

bresando

yes, it's a weak move. 3...Bf5 develops a piece, the alternative 3...c5!? puts W ceter under pressure. What does 3...b5 obtain? W can play all his normal moves on the  kingside and if you stick to your queenside expansion plan you will soon gift W a deadly advantage in develoment. You will be soon or later forced to play the usual moves, but with a big tempo handicap. 

Of course if you score well with it you can continue with your pet variation, but as you get stronger you will find that your opponents will become capable of refuting your idea.

BruderChess
scottk74 wrote:

its a weak move. no good play would play a3 or a4 untill much later. after Be3 black must either trap his bishop with e6 or Bf5 and if he keeps playing for as you say pawn storm on the queen side then he will be shocked when it fails do to whites development black cant win with just pawn moves


naw naw naw i still smash with it dont give a madddddd fuhk

bresando
BruderChess wrote:
scottk74 wrote:

its a weak move. no good play would play a3 or a4 untill much later. after Be3 black must either trap his bishop with e6 or Bf5 and if he keeps playing for as you say pawn storm on the queen side then he will be shocked when it fails do to whites development black cant win with just pawn moves


naw naw naw i still smash with it dont give a madddddd fuhk


There is no problem, until you keep "smashing with it" you can play it.

You don't need to get angry.

Your question:why noone plays 3...b5?

Our answer:because it's obiectively weak and is much worse than ...Bf5.

If you don't want an answer, don't ask.

AppleJuice_0909

what if my opponent plays Bishop b5? in the advanced variation the whole point is to pressure the two pawns with the bishop and the knight but what if they pin it? how can i make sure my knight survives that attack?

tygxc

1 e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 e5 b5 is playable. It stops 4 c4. By not playing 3...Bf5 white cannot chase that bishop. Black will play ...c5, ...e6, ...c4, ...b4. In the closed position the loss of tempo is not that bad. Bc8 can go to a6.