Why I'm leaving Chess.com

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Toon-c

Hi,

I just reported a player, and used capital letters because I was sooo frustrated, this is happening to me 7 or 8 times out of 10 games I play .... I'm just gonna copy / paste ...

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE MASS RESIGN PLAYERS !!!!! IT RUINED CHESS.COM ... ****** IS WAY BETTER BECAUSE OF THIS NOW ....... THIS GUY IS A 2300 RATED ... HE MASS RESIGNS IN BLITZ AND HIS RATING IS NOW 300 ... THEN HE KICKS EVRYBODYS BUTT AT THAT LEVEL !!! RUINS THE EXPERIENCE AND MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE CRAP ................ EVERY OTHER PLAYER NOW IS LIKE THIS ... PUT A STOP TO THIS PLEASE !!! FLAG PEOPLE WHO PLAY ONE MOVE THEN RESIGN FOR 100 GAMES IN A ROW ...

Toon-c
woollensock wrote:
Don’t let it spoil things for you , no need to leave , this is a good chess site. The problem will be dealt with , of that you can be sure.

 

 

Thanks for answering .. But how can you know that ? All I'm seeing is that the problem is getting worse !

Months ago, this used to happen once in a while, you don't even notice it, but now it's basically every other game !

 

I mean now, when a game starts, especially if it's a long one like 5min+, I take the time to go check the profile page of the player, and see if his highest rating is indeed close to what's displayed ... 

 

I do that each time because otherwise it's a waste of time .. I'm telling you it's getting worse .. it's like everybody is getting the memo and everybody is feeling the need to do this ...

 

Usually I let it pass, but this time the guy I was playing was 2300+ ... it's like, why are you even playing me ? I will never win in a million years, it was so frustrating .. and it makes you feel like an idiot ..

sackgraph

Why not institute a rating floor system similar to US Chess?

DrSpudnik

Every now and then I get games started with someone who is playing a bunch of games. Then they start time defaulting on their huge number of games, which makes their rating drop 300-400 points before they log on again and stop the bleed. It's really irritating, but aside from eternal vacation time for everyone, there is likely nothing to do about it.

Toon-c
DrSpudnik wrote:

Every now and then I get games started with someone who is playing a bunch of games. Then they start time defaulting on their huge number of games, which makes their rating drop 300-400 points before they log on again and stop the bleed. It's really irritating, but aside from eternal vacation time for everyone, there is likely nothing to do about it.

 

 

300 or 400 is not the end of the world .. especially if it wasn't on purpose ..

The example I'm talking about is a player DELIBERATELY resigning a huge number of games after one or two moves back to back (which I'm sure chess.com can find a way to detect and prohibit) ..

These players go from say 1800 bullet for example, to 500 in rating ... and then they start beating up on players on that range .. I don't know I guess that makes them feel better about themselves maybe ...

 

I'm not saying it's wrong to beat up on player that is 1000 rating point below you, but at least let them know that ... they can choose whether to play you for half an hour or not ... They are intentionally deceiving people ...

 

Toon-c

Here is an example ..

https://www.chess.com/member/reirachess

 

This guy is rated 410 in blitz .. he is having fun beating up on players in that range in blitz ...

 

Yet he is 2329 in bullet .. and winning bullet games against 2400+ players as you can see in his feed ..

 

Go figure ..

 

 

Again, I'm not saying it's wrong to play lower rated players and have fun, but at least display your correct rating so people can see it ...

 

I have no problem playing a 2000+ rated players and losing miserably, but at least I know the real rating of my opponent ..

drmrboss

Oh well, there is only 2000 rating difference! grin.png 

Oh well, you will see someone saying bullet rating are craps! grin.png

DrSpudnik
Toon-c wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:

Every now and then I get games started with someone who is playing a bunch of games. Then they start time defaulting on their huge number of games, which makes their rating drop 300-400 points before they log on again and stop the bleed. It's really irritating, but aside from eternal vacation time for everyone, there is likely nothing to do about it.

 

 

300 or 400 is not the end of the world .. especially if it wasn't on purpose ..

The example I'm talking about is a player DELIBERATELY resigning a huge number of games after one or two moves back to back (which I'm sure chess.com can find a way to detect and prohibit) ..

These players go from say 1800 bullet for example, to 500 in rating ... and then they start beating up on players on that range .. I don't know I guess that makes them feel better about themselves maybe ...

 

I'm not saying it's wrong to beat up on player that is 1000 rating point below you, but at least let them know that ... they can choose whether to play you for half an hour or not ... They are intentionally deceiving people ...

 

The difference in outcome between losing to someone 400 points lower or 1000 points lower is the same. Once someone drops a bunch, you have to fight like hell to not take a kick to the old rating.

The cure to a sandbagging threat is to take away the incentive. If the site institutes a rating floor (like the USCF) then a person couldn't drop that much in the first place. Also, if they use your highest rating to determine what competition you can enter, then you can't engage in bottom feeding.

But one way or the other, such creeps should be tossed from the site.

Toon-c
DrSpudnik wrote:
Toon-c wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:

Every now and then I get games started with someone who is playing a bunch of games. Then they start time defaulting on their huge number of games, which makes their rating drop 300-400 points before they log on again and stop the bleed. It's really irritating, but aside from eternal vacation time for everyone, there is likely nothing to do about it.

 

 

300 or 400 is not the end of the world .. especially if it wasn't on purpose ..

The example I'm talking about is a player DELIBERATELY resigning a huge number of games after one or two moves back to back (which I'm sure chess.com can find a way to detect and prohibit) ..

These players go from say 1800 bullet for example, to 500 in rating ... and then they start beating up on players on that range .. I don't know I guess that makes them feel better about themselves maybe ...

 

I'm not saying it's wrong to beat up on player that is 1000 rating point below you, but at least let them know that ... they can choose whether to play you for half an hour or not ... They are intentionally deceiving people ...

 

The difference in outcome between losing to someone 400 points lower or 1000 points lower is the same. Once someone drops a bunch, you have to fight like hell to not take a kick to the old rating.

The cure to a sandbagging threat is to take away the incentive. If the site institutes a rating floor (like the USCF) then a person couldn't drop that much in the first place. Also, if they use your highest rating to determine what competition you can enter, then you can't engage in bottom feeding.

But one way or the other, such creeps should be tossed from the site.

 

 

I guess you're right ...

Not sure about tossing people from the site though, as I said I wouldn't have posted here if this wasn't all over the place .. So many people are doing this it's becoming unbearable ..

 

One solution is to limit / block this mass resignation behavior ... I guess that's how they get to drop a lot of rating points ..

 

Happens from time to time, I start a game, and after one move the guy resigns .. I immediately think that this is one of those guys on his way down ...

Toon-c
Optimissed wrote:

It may be that it's a method used by some to get practice at simple tactics. They're doing it simply to improve.

 

That's why there are many levels of computers you can play against and practice whatever you want ...

People who are here to just have fun are not punching bags ..

drmrboss

Well, my own account, my own rules. 

You cant force someone to play until he win, he can resign anytime if he doesnt have good mood!!

drmrboss

Here is the game, OP resigned by his own in obviously equal condition!

Mods should ban OP plz, if they wanna enforce OP's rules.

 

drmrboss

First question, 

1.Why OP play against 200 rated guy, rather then playing 1000 rated guy with his level,

Probably OP wanna do noob bashing and unexpectedly see sandbagger?? (all are assumptions, no proof)

hikarunaku

Bye! will miss you.

Toon-c
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:

Did the OP actually call a 5/0 blitz game a "long game"? Does the guy not have a brain cell? 

 

 

First you should learn to make a point without insulting people .. You can try it's not that hard ..

 

And yes, I consider a 5mins blitz on the longer side .. since I play a lof of shorter blitz (3+2) and lots of 1min bullet and even 30 sec and 10 sec games ..

 

The point is, if the game is short (less than 3mins), then you can battle a very strong player and not feel bad about it ... but a longer game is basically a waste of time .. and I should know the guy's real strength before investing the time ..

Toon-c
drmrboss wrote:

First question, 

1.Why OP play against 200 rated guy, rather then playing 1000 rated guy with his level,

Probably OP wanna do noob bashing and unexpectedly see sandbagger?? (all are assumptions, no proof)

 

 

Ok, let me try and explain this to you the easy way .. maybe you get it ...

 

When you open a challenge on chess.com, it lingers for maybe 5 seconds before they assign a equally rated player to you ... in those 5 seconds, anybody can accept your challenge from the open challenges section .. could be a 2500 player, could be a 200 player ..

 

If a 2500 player gets my challenge, I wouldn't mind .. I know the guy is way stronger than me, I play, I will lose, no problem, good game ..

But if a 200 player accepts your challenge, then beats the living hell out of you (what you didn't see in that game, is that he did his moves so quick (it was a bullet if I remember correctly) my brain hurt !! we weren't even on the same planet .. THAT is what's frustrating ...

 

Get it now ?

Toon-c
drmrboss wrote:

Here is the game, OP resigned by his own in obviously equal condition!

Mods should ban OP plz, if they wanna enforce OP's rules.

 

 

 

Hopefully by now you understand my point ..

But I also wanted to quote this, to say that I don't want people to get banned, I just want chess.com to do something about this .. for example to prohibit mass resignation that is intended to deliberately lower your rating .. or maybe make a rating floor as suggested by other people in this thread ...

 

Something else you seem to not get.

Deceiving people is my problem here ... meaning displaying a rating that is not really yours ... I don't care if a 2500 player plays a 200 player as long as they both want to do it ... alright ?

mysadcat
Toon-c wrote:

Hi,

I just reported a player, and used capital letters because I was sooo frustrated, this is happening to me 7 or 8 times out of 10 games I play .... I'm just gonna copy / paste ...

 

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE MASS RESIGN PLAYERS !!!!! IT RUINED CHESS.COM ... ****** IS WAY BETTER BECAUSE OF THIS NOW ....... THIS GUY IS A 2300 RATED ... HE MASS RESIGNS IN BLITZ AND HIS RATING IS NOW 300 ... THEN HE KICKS EVRYBODYS BUTT AT THAT LEVEL !!! RUINS THE EXPERIENCE AND MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE CRAP ................ EVERY OTHER PLAYER NOW IS LIKE THIS ... PUT A STOP TO THIS PLEASE !!! FLAG PEOPLE WHO PLAY ONE MOVE THEN RESIGN FOR 100 GAMES IN A ROW ...

Hover your mouse to his/their username and click on it. There is a negative  sign in a circle. Click on that.

Toon-c
mysadcat wrote:
 

Hover your mouse to his/their username and click on it. There is a negative  sign in a circle. Click on that.

 

 

I know ..... I'm just sick of doing it, that's all ...

I guess I had many of these people in a row it push me over the edge ...

I'm fully aware that I'm being a baby here, I know that ok ?

mbereobong
Ginarook wrote:

No you are not, you have raised a valid point, it is the people who are making fun of it that are acting like babies

+1