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TheGrobe

I'd agree that for the first function it is acceptable to use IP addresses provided neither they, nor the individual accounts they correspond to are identified.

For the second, however, it's imperative that users explicitly agree to having their location published via IP if this is the desired functionality.  This principle of opting in to having information about you shared in a manner such as this is a common premise that underlies almost allof the privacy legislation I've ever encountered.  I can't help but be disappointed that chess.com's functionality doesn't comply with this.

ilikeflags
 
AfafBouardi wrote:

And more totally off the point remarks.  Facebook and all others only use information that I have chosen to share with others.  I can even make myself "unsearchable" should I choose


Sweetest afaf, as others have pointed out, you haven't made yourself unsearchable on Facebook. On the contrary, you again use your full name there, a photograph and you cite a city of some 1,500000 million souls as your base. Clearly you are not personally trying to remain anonymous.

Here on chess.com, if one does not want to be found, one can adopt the same strategy as for any other web site: don't use your real name, don't use a photograph, don't list any personal information and don't discuss any personal information.

Since you have chosen to share so much information, it weakens your case that the website has publicised one item of data.



 


exactly.  we've even seen you playing with a dead goat. 

silly girl.

Phobetrix
TheGrobe wrote:

I'd agree that for the first function it is acceptable to use IP addresses provided neither they, nor the individual accounts they correspond to are identified.

For the second, however, it's imperative that users explicitly agree to having their location published via IP if this is the desired functionality.  This principle of opting in to having information about you shared in a manner such as this is a common premise that underlies almost allof the privacy legislation I've ever encountered.  I can't help but be disappointed that chess.com's functionality doesn't comply with this.


I fully agree! The ranting of artfizz (not to speak of ilikeflags) does in no way remove the basic rights of the member/customer to judge and decide what info will be made public and what not

theoreticalboy

So I see 'everyone else is doing it' has now entered the realm of respectability as an argument, at least when backed up by figures.  Yay humanity.

artfizz
Phobetrix wrote: ... ranting ...

 1. Violent or extravagant speech or writing.

2. A speech or piece of writing that incites anger or violence.

Since when did it become 'ranting' to address each point of debate and try to make rational counter-arguments?

artfizz
Phobetrix wrote: The ranting of artfizz (not to speak of ilikeflags) does in no way remove the basic rights of the member/customer to judge and decide what info will be made public and what not

What about the basic rights of chess.com to establish their own Terms of Service (including a Privacy Policy)? As far as I can make out, chess.com are complying with their TOS.

artfizz
theoreticalboy wrote: So I see 'everyone else is doing it' has now entered the realm of respectability as an argument, at least when backed up by figures.  Yay humanity.

That is the way de facto standards work.

ilikeflags
Phobetrix wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

I'd agree that for the first function it is acceptable to use IP addresses provided neither they, nor the individual accounts they correspond to are identified.

For the second, however, it's imperative that users explicitly agree to having their location published via IP if this is the desired functionality.  This principle of opting in to having information about you shared in a manner such as this is a common premise that underlies almost allof the privacy legislation I've ever encountered.  I can't help but be disappointed that chess.com's functionality doesn't comply with this.


I fully agree! The ranting of artfizz (not to speak of ilikeflags) does in no way remove the basic rights of the member/customer to judge and decide what info will be made public and what not


i'm not saying people don't have the right to choose what they want or what they do.  i'm saying afaf is being idiotic for complaing when she has made it a point to tell boatloads about herself.  pics and stories and histories etc.  also i believe that if people don't want to be part of the specifics of chess.com they should complain or make it known to the staff and then if their complaints are ignored or judged to be pointless, then quit.  what's so hard about that?

 

ps  i see you

TheGrobe

I'm not convinced that this is in compliance with chess.com's stated privacy policy:

http://www.chess.com/legal.html#privacypolicy

Privacy Policy

Put simply: we will NEVER share your information with anyone!

...

Chess.com automatically receives and records information on our server logs from your browser, including your IP address, Chess.com cookie information, and the page you request. Chess.com uses information for the following general purposes: to customize the advertising and content you see, fulfill your requests for products and services, improve our services, contact you, conduct research, and provide anonymous reporting for internal and external clients.

...

(Emphasis on the word "anonymous" is mine)

Even if it were, though, I'd wager that it's not in compliance with Canadian privacy legislation, and likely that of many other countries as well.

Framing this as a matter of preference misses the point -- it is, in fact, a matter of fundamental rights to privacy.

ilikeflags

but who are they sharing the information with?  i think that statement is means they will not share the information witha  third party.  i could be totally wrong here but i don't see how they are sharing information that isn't already known by members of the site.  i don't really care either way, and maybe you guys are right--you probably are, BUT my biggest gripe is that know-it-all princess afaf's complaing about a pin on a map when she has actively shared so much about her exotic life.

artfizz
TheGrobe wrote:

I'm not convinced that this is in compliance with chess.com's stated privacy policy:

http://www.chess.com/legal.html#privacypolicy

Privacy Policy

Put simply: we will NEVER share your information with anyone!

...

Chess.com automatically receives and records information on our server logs from your browser, including your IP address, Chess.com cookie information, and the page you request. Chess.com uses information for the following general purposes: to customize the advertising and content you see, fulfill your requests for products and services, improve our services, contact you, conduct research, and provide anonymous reporting for internal and external clients.

...

(Emphasis on the word "anonymous" is mine)

Even if it were, though, I'd wager that it's not in compliance with Canadian privacy legislation, and likely that of many other countries as well.

Framing this as a matter of preference misses the point -- it is, in fact, a matter of fundamental rights to privacy.

I'm clicking on the link Privacy Policy by TRUSTe at the bottom of the page to see their most recent Privacy Policy.

Regarding potential conflict with national privacy legislation: that would need more investigation.

TheGrobe

Viewers of that map are third parties:  They're not chess.com, and they're not me.

TheGrobe

Curious that there are two privacy policies.

artfizz
TheGrobe wrote: Viewers of that map are third parties:  They're not chess.com, and they're not me.

The latest Privacy Policy says: We will share your personal information with third parties only in the ways that are described in this privacy statement.

ilikeflags
TheGrobe wrote:

Viewers of that map are third parties:  They're not chess.com, and they're not me.


an argument can be raised that the viewers of the map are chess.com.

ilikeflags

awesome that staff has given little or no participation to this thread.

Phobetrix
artfizz wrote:
Phobetrix wrote: ... ranting ...

 1. Violent or extravagant speech or writing.

2. A speech or piece of writing that incites anger or violence.

Since when did it become 'ranting' to address each point of debate and try to make rational counter-arguments?


Sorry if I used an inexact verb.

artfizz
Phobetrix wrote: Sorry if I used an inexact verb.

Know hum darn. Smile

TheGrobe
ilikeflags wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Viewers of that map are third parties:  They're not chess.com, and they're not me.


an argument can be raised that the viewers of the map are chess.com.


Not a successful one. 

artfizz
ilikeflags wrote: awesome that staff has given little or no participation to this thread.

We'd better make it most of it; it can't last.

No doubt little things like the recent updates breaking a few of the site facilities has distracted them.