hahaha ok. I guess i must not know anything. I am sure there is a reason why swap partitions are not created on ones ram stick during the installation of ones operating system i wonder what that could be. ;)
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erik wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
Erik,
I recommend instead installing the Steve Jobs plugin - no need to speed up from hard disk.
i can hear the koolaid going down... gulp gulp gulp... ;)
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Nov 12, 2010
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deepOzzzie wrote:
hahaha ok. I guess i must not know anything. I am sure there is a reason why swap partitions are not created on ones ram stick during the installation of ones operating system i wonder what that could be. ;)
There are a few reasons that this isn't done normally, but not the ones you brought up. The first main reason is that you can't use the RAM that you set aside for anything else. This is fine if you have a lot of RAM in your machine and you use the internet all the time. But, if your machine is older, or on the lower end of the performance spectrum, your computer may start to miss the extra RAM space (this is the problem I would have).
The other downside to doing this is that normally, the information in RAM disappears when the computer shuts down, thus eliminating all your cache, forcing you to reload it with every reboot, and diminishing any speed advantage you had. With the program that Erik mentioned, this problem can be solved by having the program copy all the information from your RAM disk to your hard drive when the computer shuts down. This can lead to your computer taking a bit longer to shut down (and consequently, boot back up). This extra time bothers some folks, but when you spend as much time on the internet as Erik does, it's worth it.
furtiveking wrote:
deepOzzzie wrote:
hahaha ok. I guess i must not know anything. I am sure there is a reason why swap partitions are not created on ones ram stick during the installation of ones operating system i wonder what that could be. ;)
There are a few reasons that this isn't done normally, but not the ones you brought up. The first main reason is that you can't use the RAM that you set aside for anything else. This is fine if you have a lot of RAM in your machine and you use the internet all the time. But, if your machine is older, or on the lower end of the performance spectrum, your computer may start to miss the extra RAM space (this is the problem I would have).
The other downside to doing this is that normally, the information in RAM disappears when the computer shuts down, thus eliminating all your cache, forcing you to reload it with every reboot, and diminishing any speed advantage you had. With the program that Erik mentioned, this problem can be solved by having the program copy all the information from your RAM disk to your hard drive when the computer shuts down. This can lead to your computer taking a bit longer to shut down (and consequently, boot back up). This extra time bothers some folks, but when you spend as much time on the internet as Erik does, it's worth it.
Agreed this would be perfect for a user such as erik who is constantly online. However, the only reason i gave for not doing this was it will ultimately result in the killing of ones ram. This is actually one of the main reasons as to why it is not done. See when a computer boots it runs the boot loader into your ram. Which it expects to have access too. But if you have cluttered up your ram with a secondary partition for swap files you will find your computer having to check the location in which it is able to place the boot loader this causes excess strain. Then once this is achieved once your computer undergoes any form of stress due to secondary applications running on the machine the OS then has to take control of memory access to ensure its scheduling methods are applicable when your machine attempts to access the partition of ram set aside it will result in a fault causing a blue screen in a windows machine or deadlock state within a unix environment. If this occurs on a frequent basis which it will you will end up killing any ram you may have had available, the irony is you will still have the ram to run your web browser though. ;)
Nov 12, 2010
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deepOzzzie wrote:
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Agreed this would be perfect for a user such as erik who is constantly online. However, the only reason i gave for not doing this was it will ultimately result in the killing of ones ram. This is actually one of the main reasons as to why it is not done. See when a computer boots it runs the boot loader into your ram. Which it expects to have access too. But if you have cluttered up your ram with a secondary partition for swap files you will find your computer having to check the location in which it is able to place the boot loader this causes excess strain. Then once this is achieved once your computer undergoes any form of stress due to secondary applications running on the machine the OS then has to take control of memory access to ensure its scheduling methods are applicable when your machine attempts to access the partition of ram set aside it will result in a fault causing a blue screen in a windows machine or deadlock state within a unix environment. If this occurs on a frequent basis which it will you will end up killing any ram you may have had available, the irony is you will still have the ram to run your web browser though. ;)
The only way that what you describe would happen is if the program that Erik is pointing out is poorly written. With a well written app (which I am assuming this is), it is more than possible to section off a portion of the computers RAM, and only allow a specific program to access it. This happens all the time.
Maybe you misunderstand how the RAMDisk software works. But, this comes into play only AFTER the OS is loaded and where it needs to be. THEN RAMDisk comes in and basically "quarantines" part of your RAM. If you have an image of your RAM disk saved on your HD, then this image is loaded into your RAM. RAMDisk only uses this quarantined area, and the OS knows not to put anything there. There is no way that using a RAMDisk will kill your RAM,
Nov 12, 2010
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chrome does quite well in the speed tests, interesting statistics:
http://lifehacker.com/5457242/browser-speed-tests-firefox-36-chrome-4-opera-105-and-extensions
i like using firefox sometimes however for its add-ons, scripts, etc.
I find it that using adblock plus does the trick as well as treating you browser gently, with a lot of cleaning and knowing its features big and small...
I use SeaMonkey on Ubuntu Linux. It's fast enough for what I do.
Nov 16, 2010
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deepOzzzie wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
Erik,
I recommend instead installing the Steve Jobs plugin - no need to speed up from hard disk.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_air
I was going to bag on you because of your choice of mac product but i decided that i cannot bring myself to do it. I have recently decided a mac machine is a worth while investment, just not something i would throw my money at. ;)
I own an iMac, a MacBook Pro, and an iPad, and I have all my music in iTunes. So you might think I'm the world's biggest Kool-Aid fan - but I only bought one of those products.
Well as long as you bought only one of them. As i also only own 1 mac based product the iphone. But the girl friend owns a macbook pro.
Nov 16, 2010
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A couple of other points:
- I had months and months of time to buy an iPad if I wanted to - but I didn't. I also didn't buy a Kindle, or a Nook, or a Sony eReader. I thought a little bit about which of the e-readers I would want if I could buy one of them - you know, which has interoperability, is standards-based, etc. But one thing that's interesting, is that books are not like music. You don't keep reading the same book over and over again, typically. So if you bought a Kindle today, bought 150$ worth of books (15 books I suppose), and then when it died in 5 years you didn't get another e-reader... you'd be fine. In fact you can always read through one of the myriad of Kindle apps, if you were in the middle of a book when the thing died.
- But then I won the iPad, which was awesome, and I decided to keep it.
- Hey - I'm leaning towards trading in my current 16GB 3G model for a non-3G model when it comes out updated... assuming it comes with a camera. How much $$ do you think I'll have to add to the equation?
Nov 16, 2010
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My wife bought herself an iPad for my birthday 
The chances that I actually get to use the thing are slim: between Netflix streaming of Lost episodes and games apparently involving screaming monkeys that my son likes, it's permanently in use. Is there any reason for me to try and wrest control of the thing or stick to my laptop ? It is a beautiful piece of engineering though. I like the Kindle (I'm occasionally allowed to use this). Looking out for chess books with clickable diagrams for it.
ill try it.thx for the information,
ummm...haven't we heard this before?
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/the-best-browser-chrome---download-it-now
Apparently, erik, you work for Google. Don't you think that you should let people decide for themselves what browser they want to use, instead of going on about how fast Chrome is, and concentrate on more important things? Don't forget that this is CHESS.com. Yeah, I heard your whole every-page-counts argument, but a few milliseconds a page doesn't really matter for the 99% of us that aren't online loading 10,000 pages for 23 hours a day.
P.S. I dare you to try Firefox 4 beta.
benws wrote:
ummm...haven't we heard this before?
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/the-best-browser-chrome---download-it-now
Apparently, erik, you work for Google. Don't you think that you should let people decide for themselves what browser they want to use, instead of going on about how fast Chrome is, and concentrate on more important things? Don't forget that this is CHESS.com. Yeah, I heard your whole every-page-counts argument, but a few milliseconds a page doesn't really matter for the 99% of us that aren't online loading 10,000 pages for 23 hours a day.
P.S. I dare you to try Firefox 4 beta.
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Nov 18, 2010
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benws wrote:
ummm...haven't we heard this before?
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/the-best-browser-chrome---download-it-now
Apparently, erik, you work for Google. Don't you think that you should let people decide for themselves what browser they want to use, instead of going on about how fast Chrome is, and concentrate on more important things? Don't forget that this is CHESS.com. Yeah, I heard your whole every-page-counts argument, but a few milliseconds a page doesn't really matter for the 99% of us that aren't online loading 10,000 pages for 23 hours a day.
P.S. I dare you to try Firefox 4 beta.
really? i'm not allowed to recommend ways for people to better enjoy the internet? i get nothing out of making this suggestion except a chance that you might be happier. i guess not.
my apologies to all for making offensively helpful suggestions...
Nov 18, 2010
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erik wrote:
my apologies to all for making offensively helpful suggestions...
Eric, keep the helpful suggestions coming! I've had a great experience since I tried Google Chrome, after one of your previous suggestions.
Yes. :) I maybe stupid but not that stupid. Ok that is debatable. ;) But as i said creating a swap partition on your ram will cause you problems in the future and will mostly kill your ram. I dont have the money to buy a new one when that happens. :)
true. best way to preserve your ram is not use it. noted for the future.