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OldPatzerMike wrote:

... 100 Endgames You Must Know, by Jesus de la Villa, ... 

"... the 2000+ player for which 100 Endgames You Must Know is really intended ..." - Steve Goldberg

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105702/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review645.pdf

"... Players from 2000 up to International Master will find 100 ENDGAMES YOU MUST KNOW quite useful." - IM John Donaldson

http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/100-Endgames-You-Must-Know-78p3863.htm

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9026.pdf

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kindaspongey wrote:
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kindaspongey wrote:

"In this series of fourteen endgame books, FIDE Senior Trainer Adrian Mikhal-chishin, FIDE Trainer Efstratios Grivas and IGM Csaba Balogh combine their experience as trainers and as practical players ... The main concept of each book [in The Modern Endgame Manual series] is to provide theoretical knowledge which can be used in practical games. ..."

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7627.pdf

Damn! 14 books! That alone is going to bankrupt me for sure.  But if you bring it up then it must be worth it while. 

My guess is that the books are not worthwhile for someone who is not a very serious chess player. However, you did write: "... The more comprehensive the book the better. …" Consequently, I thought I would try to give you some idea about what happens if "comprehensive" becomes the number one priority. By the way, the quote is from the "Editorial Preface" in the first book.

 

Good point. And point well taken. 

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kindaspongey wrote:
joseph1000000  wrote:

… Are these books in 14 volumes or separate books?

I suspect that I do not understand your question as the answer seems to me to be: both. Thus far, I think that only eight of the books have been published.

 

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OldPatzerMike wrote:

... Fundamental Chess Endings, by Karsten Müller. 

"... in my opinion easily the best encyclopaedic endings book. ..." - IM John Watson (2007)

http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/theres-an-end-to-it-all

Here is a sample from Fundamental Chess Endings:
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Fundamental_Chess_Endings.pdf

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joseph1000000  wrote:

… Are these books in 14 volumes or separate books?

I suspect that I do not understand your question as the answer seems to me to be: both. Thus far, I think that only eight of the books have been published.

 

I'm  vague.  If there are 14 volumes,  the work is definitely comprehensive! But now I am confused.  8 published,  but there are 14 of them?

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kindaspongey wrote:
OldPatzerMike wrote:

... 100 Endgames You Must Know, by Jesus de la Villa, ... 

"... the 2000+ player for which 100 Endgames You Must Know is really intended ..." - Steve Goldberg

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105702/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review645.pdf

"... Players from 2000 up to International Master will find 100 ENDGAMES YOU MUST KNOW quite useful." - IM John Donaldson

http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/100-Endgames-You-Must-Know-78p3863.htm

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9026.pdf

 

So,  this one is out of my league too?

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kindaspongey  wrote:

… Thus far, I think that only eight of the books [in The Modern Endgame Manual series] have been published.

... now I am confused.  8 published,  but there are 14 of them?

The publication started in 2016 and seems to be a continuing project with six more books supposedly to appear.

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kindaspongey wrote:
OldPatzerMike wrote:

... 100 Endgames You Must Know, by Jesus de la Villa, ... 

"... the 2000+ player for which 100 Endgames You Must Know is really intended ..." - Steve Goldberg

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105702/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review645.pdf

"... Players from 2000 up to International Master will find 100 ENDGAMES YOU MUST KNOW quite useful." - IM John Donaldson

http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/100-Endgames-You-Must-Know-78p3863.htm

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9026.pdf

So,  this one is out of my league too?

If I remember correctly, you do not intend to play chess. Consequently, I am not sure what any endgame book will do for you. There is no way to be sure about what will satisfy your priorities, but there seems to be some opinion that this book is largely intended to help players over 2000. Ideally, you would look at a sample in order to judge what you would get out of the book. Maybe it would help if you look up the book at the New in Chess site.

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kindaspongey wrote:
 
joseph 1000000 wrote:
kindaspongey  wrote:

… Thus far, I think that only eight of the books [in The Modern Endgame Manual series] have been published.

... now I am confused.  8 published,  but there are 14 of them?

The publication started in 2016 and seems to be a continuing project with six more books supposedly to appear.

 

Then just add any endgame book(s) you think would be helpful to me or at my level. 

Studying could also take place at any level regardless. 

On a different note, you put a lot of work into this game,  chess.  Is it worthwhile to you that much?

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kindaspongey wrote:
 
joseph 1000000 wrote:
kindaspongey  wrote:

… Thus far, I think that only eight of the books [in The Modern Endgame Manual series] have been published.

... now I am confused.  8 published,  but there are 14 of them?

The publication started in 2016 and seems to be a continuing project with six more books supposedly to appear.

Then just add any endgame book(s) you think would be helpful to me or at my level. ...

It is hard to understand what you have in mind by "helpful" if you do not play.

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joseph1000000  wrote:

… Studying could also take place at any level regardless. ...

But will studying take place? It seems to me that the best guess would come from the possible reader, as much as practical, knowing about a book under consideration.

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joseph1000000  wrote:

… you put a lot of work into this game,  chess.  Is it worthwhile to you that much?

I enjoy what I do.

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kindaspongey : I am interested to learn about Chess Theory.  At any level,  it could be done. 

I get , concentration,  mental challenge and learning out of it. 

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"... Damn! 14 books! That alone is going to bankrupt me for sure. …" - joseph1000000
joseph1000000 wrote:

kindaspongey : I am interested to learn about Chess Theory. ...

All of it? If nothing else, you have referred to monetary considerations. It is hard to understand your limitations and know what would fit them. Consequently, it seems sensible to encourage you to acquire knowledge about books before buying them.

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kindaspongey wrote:
"... Damn! 14 books! That alone is going to bankrupt me for sure. …" - joseph1000000
joseph1000000 wrote:

kindaspongey : I am interested to learn about Chess Theory. ...

All of it? If nothing else, you have referred to monetary considerations. It is hard to understand your limitations and know what would fit them. Consequently, it seems sensible to encourage you to acquire knowledge about books before buying them.

 

All of it.  It is good to have a feeling of whole thing before one starts to play too many games. This is true for certain ages.  I can't and won't recommend it to children. But much like what you have suggested it can go to certain level and not too high.  This is different for each person. 

Thank you for the advise too. 

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kindaspongey wrote:
"... Damn! 14 books! That alone is going to bankrupt me for sure. …" - joseph1000000
joseph1000000 wrote:

kindaspongey : I am interested to learn about Chess Theory. ...

All of it? If nothing else, you have referred to monetary considerations. ...

All of it.  It is good to have a feeling of whole thing before one starts to play too many games. This is true for certain ages. ...

So, are you going to get to work on books from the 14-book set? Read Dvoretsky? How about that aardvark guy? I think you may find that some of those books are not well-suited for getting a "feeling".

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kindaspongey wrote:
joseph1000000 wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
"... Damn! 14 books! That alone is going to bankrupt me for sure. …" - joseph1000000
joseph1000000 wrote:

kindaspongey : I am interested to learn about Chess Theory. ...

All of it? If nothing else, you have referred to monetary considerations. ...

All of it.  It is good to have a feeling of whole thing before one starts to play too many games. This is true for certain ages. ...

So, are you going to get to work on books from the 14-book set? Read Dvoretsky? How about that aardvark guy? I think you may find that some of those books are not well-suited for getting a "feeling".

"all of it" has some limitation for me as I might have implied. My intention is to gather enough sources of information about what concerns Chess Theory and get a general feeling about it,  if I can.  

The 14 books are not, for now anyway,  part of that plan, which covers next few years.  But I am glad you mentioned them. Who know what the future holds.

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"... Damn! 14 books! That alone is going to bankrupt me for sure. …" - joseph1000000
"... I am interested to learn about Chess Theory. ..." - joseph1000000
"... All of it. It is good to have a feeling of whole thing before one starts to play too many games. This is true for certain ages. ..." - joseph1000000
joseph1000000  wrote:

"all of it" has some limitation for me as I might have implied. My intention is to gather enough sources of information about what concerns Chess Theory and get a general feeling about it,  if I can.

The 14 books are not, for now anyway,  part of that plan, which covers next few years.  ...

It might be a good idea to give some thought to the specific reasons for a book to not be "part of the plan". Most chess books are not written for the purpose of giving "a general feeling about" "Chess Theory" to someone who is not an active chess player.

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kindaspongey wrote:
"... Damn! 14 books! That alone is going to bankrupt me for sure. …" - joseph1000000
"... I am interested to learn about Chess Theory. ..." - joseph1000000
"... All of it. It is good to have a feeling of whole thing before one starts to play too many games. This is true for certain ages. ..." - joseph1000000
joseph1000000  wrote:

"all of it" has some limitation for me as I might have implied. My intention is to gather enough sources of information about what concerns Chess Theory and get a general feeling about it,  if I can.

The 14 books are not, for now anyway,  part of that plan, which covers next few years.  ...

It might be a good idea to give some thought to the specific reasons for a book to not be "part of the plan". Most chess books are not written for the purpose of giving "a general feeling about" "Chess Theory" to someone who is not an active chess player.

 

I read a lot.  Though you have a good point,  I would not know what I might choose next.  So,  rest easy.  I would not spend money unless it is a good investment. 

You definitely a careful reader for analysing my post!

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joseph1000000  wrote:

… I read a lot. ...

"... Abstract themes and passive learning aren't necessarily bad. But whatever you learn has to be underlined in a more active way. Otherwise you will forget it, the way to you will forget trigonometry once you stop using sines and cosines. This is where practice comes in. Practice means playing games against humans and machines in various formats and time limits. When you get to apply - in a real game - what you've learned from a book or computer screen, the information is reinforced in a powerful way. ..." - GM Andrew Soltis (2009) 

"... The overwhelming majority of chess literature is about theory: opening theory, improvement theory, tactical ideas, how to think, etc. Good stuff. But the flip side to theory is practice. How good would you be at golf if you only took lessons and never played? … You need both theory and practice in tennis, golf, chess, math, or just about anything else. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2002) https://web.archive.org/web/20140627052239/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman16.pdf