can you get this move in under 30 seconds? I couldn't and lost

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lfPatriotGames
ninja888 wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ninja888 wrote:
SamuraiRevolution wrote:

na7 is my gess got it iin 5 secs

Na7 makes no sense whatsoever. After axb7 white wins

He didn't say he got it right in 5 seconds, just that he got it in 5 seconds.

I don't think axb7 is the problem with Na7. I think b6 is. 

How is Na7 supposed to stop the capture of the b7 knight and immediate promotion? (Although b6 does win, but much slower)

It doesn't. Both b6 and axb7 seem to win pretty easily. I guess when I look at it b6 would be my reaction.

korotky_trinity
TooManyBlunders wrote:
korotky_trinity wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
korotky_trinity wrote:

As I can analyze this position... White wins in anyway.

It's a difficult position for sure. But once you realize you can't move the king or the c knight you just have to figure out where to move the b knight. With the right moves black forces a win. With the wrong moves white forces a win. 

Now I have an idea that the ending of the game is the most important part of the game....

And I think about this position for ten minutes.

I don't see how Black can force the victory after b6.

Show me that, please. I am very curious.

This position is like a puzzle for me.

It is actually fairly straightforward. The idea is that you force the pawns into a position so you can form a blockade with your knights. This will allow you to win one of the pawns. Once that is achieved, the win is easy from there.

 

Thank you one more time..

 It was very difficult to figure out this consequence.

Thunder7

The only move is nba6 as anything else the pawn promotes found in 5 sec 

Thunder7

I meant nba5

Thunder7

Nd6 also wins

Andrewtopia
Kinngis wrote:

No no no.

Nba5 is best. If White moves a6-a7 c-knight can eat it, and if white eats with b-pawn, another knight can eat it and prevent a-pawn from moving.

How is Nc5 better?

I reckon Nc5 is better because it also keeps the b-pawn restrained.

ninja888

You guys really need to look at a few more comments since you all believe Nba5 works (well most of you) while it loses immediately

benonidoni
ninja888 wrote:

You guys really need to look at a few more comments since you all believe Nba5 works (well most of you) while it loses immediately

Correct! there are only two moves one is far the best

eric0022
benonidoni wrote:

There are only two correct moves. One is far better for black. Black to move. I sat there in a blitz and couldn't get it. 

 

For me, I considered only 1...Nc5 and nothing else within 20 seconds. But I know that me being able to spot this and you being unable to spot it is an unfair comparison because for two reasons. One, you have already mentioned that there were only two winning moves (though I only read the title and looked at the position), whereas you would not have known that there were only two winning moves, and the pawns looked indeed scary to a large extent. Two, 30 seconds under great time pressure is very different in feeling from where I am sitting at.

 

By sitting calmly and looking at the position for 20 seconds, this equates to 30 seconds under time pressure. I would have made the correct position but would also have lost on time the next move.

eric0022
AdhirajGM2024 wrote:

b6 wins easily

 

It's Black to move and Black to win.