How do you draw this 2 vs 3 Rook endgame?

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BronsteinPawn

I was hanging some pieces in blitz as usual but this time in a competitor site. The game was going well until I decided it was time to hang a pawn and enter a horrible endgame.

 

I usually see that when all pawns are on one side of the board in rook endgames and there is only 1 pawn difference between sides, drawing chances are high.

So, what is the usual technique to draw them, and can you know if it is drawn or has high drawing chances by just looking at it? My guess is you can.

So, how would you draw this? (If possible) White's pawns looked a little to advanced and my rook would take about 2 moves to activate which makes things harder.

BronsteinPawn

Ok, I think this one is easy. Thanks for the support.

ArgoNavis

You're welcome

BronsteinPawn
kingofshedinjas escribió:

You're welcome

What are you doing here? Do you take chess seriously? I thought troll was what fulfilled you.

ArgoNavis
BronsteinPawn wrote:
kingofshedinjas escribió:

You're welcome

What are you doing here? Do you take chess seriously? I thought troll was what fulfilled you.

I make a chess related comment every 2-3 months. It is a useful surprise weapon, some people think it is in fact a troll comment, and they get mad.

BronsteinPawn

h5 looks interesting, but I think it is best to activate your rook.

35.Rxb6 hxg4 36.hxg4 looks like a way worse version than what Black gets in the line I proposed.

BronsteinPawn

I thought these kind of endgames would be harder to hold, but they are just as 2 vs 2 drawn rook endgames lol, just cut off the king with your rook, and let it be.

Rat1960

BronsteinPawn - Patience.  What with the game and the comments, lots of entertainment value before grafting on the problem at hand ...


It is as you show in your second post !!

a) get the rook on the a, [b] or c file, 4th rank due to white having pawns on f, g and h.
b) create a king path to the 6th rank ( i.e. Kg6, Kf6 )
It is only when the pawns are on the 4th rank (king on say 3rd rank) that *should you need to*, you can give checks from the first rank.
If white moves his rook to f2 then black sits there with Ra5, Ra4 and Kg6,Kf6 - hell you might even win on time ...
Rooks go behind pawns when defending, crunch time is when they are on the 5th rank.
( two connected passed pawns on the 6th rank equals a rook always crosses my mind)

micky - dunno 34. ... h5 35. h4 !? hxg 36. fxg Ra8 [...] 37. Rxb5 

BronsteinPawn

Thanks. Yes, the key to this endgames is patience as you said, sitting around, not worsening your position.

I remember this "drawing" technique from really dead drawn endgames like this, in the game I thought I was toasted even tho that should be drawish. Thankfully my opponent hung his queen.

BronsteinPawn

If anyone is interested in this kind of endgames I got a lot of info from this article by a GM.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/basic-rook-endgames-3-versus-2-on-the-same-flank

macer75
BronsteinPawn wrote:

I was hanging some pieces in blitz as usual but this time in a competitor site. The game was going well until I decided it was time to hang a pawn and enter a horrible endgame.

 

I usually see that when all pawns are on one side of the board in rook endgames and there is only 1 pawn difference between sides, drawing chances are high.

So, what is the usual technique to draw them, and can you know if it is drawn or has high drawing chances by just looking at it? My guess is you can.

So, how would you draw this? (If possible) White's pawns looked a little to advanced and my rook would take about 2 moves to activate which makes things harder.

 

What was the competitor site?

macer75

Also, that's not a 2 vs. 3 rook endgame. This is a 2 vs. 3 rook endgame:

BronsteinPawn

Oh, god, the cheap trolling has arrived.

Macer, ILL COACH YOU so you can troll with actuall chess stuff.

And White is getting mated in that position lol.

BronsteinPawn

Carefully read my first diagram and you will know which competitor site it was.

Rat1960

#11 Thank you. I will go have a read.

macer75
 

BronsteinPawn wrote:

Oh, god, the cheap trolling has arrived.

Macer, ILL COACH YOU so you can troll with actuall chess stuff.

And White is getting mated in that position lol.

Actually, look closely at the diagram and you'll see it's black that's about to get mated.



ArgoNavis
macer75 wrote:

Also, that's not a 2 vs. 3 rook endgame. This is a 2 vs. 3 rook endgame:

 

So it took 13 comments to get here. I thought we would arrive there by comment 10.

BronsteinPawn

MACER IS TRIGGERING ME!!!!

BronsteinPawn

LOL. WTF WAS HE DOING WITH THE CONTROLLER. LOLOL.

BronsteinPawn

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