how to checkmate with a queen

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onlyflowerymelody
 

 

baddogno

Ever notice that little symbol right under the a1 square?  Try running your cursor over it; I'll wait...wink.png.  Go To Analysis pops up, right?  Try clicking on it and see if what you have posted actually shows the truth of the position...

baddogno

Nope.  Three inaccuracies.  Moves 2, 3, and 5.

 

 

MARattigan
baddogno wrote:

Nope.  Three inaccuracies.  Moves 2, 3, and 5.

 

 

@onlyflowerymelody is presumably demonstrating a method by forcing the king to the edge using only the queen and then bringing up the king. This is generally sub-optimal but works and gives the same number of points as an accurate method. 

Why 7.Qc7 though?

Btw the chess.com analysis is not correct for all positions (though it should manage KQK).

GoldKnight02

There are several ways of checking with a queen. I have learnt to drive the opposing king so it has one column/ line left. You then advance your king one move behind the opposing one and wait until it reaches the queen. Then it will be directly in front of your king, meaning it can only move sideways. Next move your queen down eliminating all escape squares and delivers checkmate.


 

jetoba

Having directed a LOT of scholastic tournaments I've found that beginners will draw about half the time with K+Q vs their opponent's K and they will stalemate about 90% of the time with K+2Q vs K.

A simple, easy to remember, method is more effective for teaching them than a technically elegant method that is the fewest moves.  Now if we were talking about puzzle solving then an entirely different mindset is involved.

LeiJChess
GoldKnight02 wrote:

There are several ways of checking with a queen. I have learnt to drive the opposing king so it has one column/ line left. You then advance your king one move behind the opposing one and wait until it reaches the queen. Then it will be directly in front of your king, meaning it can only move sideways. Next move your queen down eliminating all escape squares and delivers checkmate.


 

Pretty effective method which I use too, but just pointing out, you could have checkmated earlier with Qe7# on move 14, since you don't need to shift your queen to do a back rank. Not a big difference but could be important in some time struggles. 

Commando_Droid

This is a slow method. Instead, you should first bring your king up. Then, cut off the enemy king on the last rank. Then, mate. I don't see the point of doing the L shape. It's just a waste of moves.

MARattigan

Quickest is usually to use the king and queen from opposite sides to push the enemy king to the nearest edge. E.g.

Look out for stalemates, e.g. don't play 6.Qc6 in the first example.
If you use @onlyflowerymelody's method, it's slower but you're unlikely to blunder into stalemate.

Be prepared to change your mind every move about at which edge you want to mate whatever method you use.
 

MARattigan
Copernicus9 wrote:

The "box" method works well.

Is that leave the pieces in the box?

MARattigan

@Copernicus9

Thanks.

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magipi

Ben Finegold showed this method in a video (for amusement), and he commented that anyone who teaches this method should be banned from teaching.