I hate the threefold repetition rule

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OK. It was still good to argue about something important 4 chess lol. Have a good dayhappy.png

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Joseph_Truelsons_Fan yazdı:

sounds like a you problem fr

Not cool

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Oyna10dakika wrote:

Dude, think. U r eating his queen and about to checkmate. And what ur opponent does? Ends it in a forced draw. 

But you made a mistake. You left your king vulnerable to perpetual check. You got laser focused on the "attack the other players king" half of the game and forgot the other half, protecting your own king. Because you made that mistake you don't get to win. That's the punishment. You don't lose, but you don't get to win either. 

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Let's say its a punishment. Why do both sides get 1/2? Chess is not win-win or in other words 50-50. There's draw in very RARE cases. OK. Let's imagine u and I r playing a friendly chess match. U got a perfect posision. If u move ur pawn one square forward, it will be forking. Queen or king. But what do i do, repeating same move 10 times and ending it an automatically draw. Both of us gets 50-50. Will u be angry bcs u were perfectly forking and getting my pawn? Do u think that i deserve half points? Ask that yourself.

 

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Sorry. I meant queen not pawn

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Oyna10dakika wrote:

Let's say its a punishment. Why do both sides get 1/2? Chess is not win-win or in other words 50-50. There's draw in very RARE cases. OK. Let's imagine u and I r playing a friendly chess match. U got a perfect posision. If u move ur pawn one square forward, it will be forking. Queen or king. But what do i do, repeating same move 10 times and ending it an automatically draw. Both of us gets 50-50. Will u be angry bcs u were perfectly forking and getting my pawn? Do u think that i deserve half points? Ask that yourself.

 

I would've checked to make sure that you didn't have a repetition. Just like I would've checked to make sure you didn't have a countertactic. The reason that it ends in a draw is this - Who SHOULD win? There isn't really a deserved victor. Take this position:

 

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Oyna10dakika wrote:

Ending the game in draw when u r losing is also silly my man.

If the game ends in a draw when you are losing, that simply means you were not losing. 

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Eu não sei

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Oyna10dakika wrote:

There's draw in very RARE cases.

lolwut? At the master level a draw is how about one third of games end.

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How refreshing that there is nothing about global warming here.

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AMartianPotato yazdı:
Oyna10dakika wrote:

There's draw in very RARE cases.

lolwut? At the master level a draw is how about one third of games end.

I don't have business with math. I'm just playing chess here. Idc how much percent but in a normal game 1 side wins. 

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If you don't like the rules then play another game.

The rules apply to everyone, not just you. And sometimes it requires skill to avoid a draw. Would you prefer to be more sportsmanlike and just plain LOSE? 'Think' about it.

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So glad

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neatgreatfire wrote:

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Nice example, but you missed a mate in 1.

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Good point. It's early in the morning for me because I just got up at the crack of noon. But maybe you mean how could that position be reached? The only possible way without a mate (in two) being on seems to be a R sacrifice on g7 with Black's K on g8. If that was the case, Black has to accept the sacrifice. Black's previous move may have been Qc3 to a3.

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Optimissed wrote:

Good point. It's early in the morning for me because I just got up at the crack of noon. But maybe you mean how could that position be reached? The only possible way without a mate (in two) being on seems to be a R sacrifice on g7 with Black's K on g8. If that was the case, Black has to accept the sacrifice. Black's previous move may have been Qc3 to a3.

Not strictly speaking the only possible way. 

If the White queen were on f4 it would be more realistic. 

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MARattigan wrote:
neatgreatfire wrote:

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Nice example, but you missed a mate in 1.

im dumb lol

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It is possible to bar double repetition of a position from the legal play options. In the eastern game of Go even the first repetition is banned and it works well there. Chess is of different character. There is quite a good chance that after a number of checks there remains no other opportunity for a king than to repeat some earlier position twice. That, by definition, then is called checkmate - with the king in check and no legal place to go. Which means that the side with the overwhelming material advantage loses the game. Is that what anyone wants?

Btw, it's not the whole story since something similar might happen to the check giving side. If that is the side which wants to repeat twice first then that move is of course illegal as well which might terminate the checking harassment of the king. It is kind of hard to predict which side runs into the illegal repetition first. You really need to zoom in on the exact positions and the sides on move

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I agree

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Just dumbing down chess.