The hardest endgame of all time

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Penguin

The big question Ry.... Can you win this position against a tablebase 

Strangemover

I would be offering a draw. 

rychessmaster1
Penguin wrote:

The big question Ry.... Can you win this position against a tablebase 

If I was using a tablebase, then yes

Otherwise, no 

rychessmaster1
Strangemover wrote:

I would be offering a draw. 

Understandable 

rychessmaster1
rebus2k wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
rebus2k wrote:

i checked with 4 engines. all say 0.00

 

except depth 30 chess.com engine, it says +0.09

Check the lichess engine

It uses a tablebase 

And it says win in 84 

lichess engine says +0.1 dude

Check the tablebase 

cletejohnsburg

Zunzwang ?  Shucks boi.

2Ke21-0
rebus2k wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
rebus2k wrote:

i checked with 4 engines. all say 0.00

 

except depth 30 chess.com engine, it says +0.09

Check the lichess engine

It uses a tablebase 

And it says win in 84 

lichess engine says +0.1 dude

In b4 the lock.

2Ke21-0

All the people who are consulting to an engine in an endgame in a position with five pieces know absolutely nothing about endgames. Use a tablebase if you do not want to solve this study with your brain. 

Typewriter44
2Ke21-0 wrote:

All the people who are consulting to an engine in an endgame in a position with five pieces no absolutely nothing about endgames. Use a tablebase if you do not want to solve this study with your brain. 

no absolutely nothing

Penguin

Look at Advaith being smart 😄

2Ke21-0
Typewriter44 wrote:
2Ke21-0 wrote:

All the people who are consulting to an engine in an endgame in a position with five pieces no absolutely nothing about endgames. Use a tablebase if you do not want to solve this study with your brain. 

no absolutely nothing

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Typewriter44
2Ke21-0 wrote:
Typewriter44 wrote:
2Ke21-0 wrote:

All the people who are consulting to an engine in an endgame in a position with five pieces no absolutely nothing about endgames. Use a tablebase if you do not want to solve this study with your brain. 

no absolutely nothing

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BacoNCheese_Nugget
Typewriter44 wrote:

 

1. Ba7 Nc8?? 2. Ng3# ??? 

But I think after 1. Ba7 Ne4 2. Bb6!? Nf2+ Kg3 draw?? (repetition on Nf2+ Kg3 Ne4+ Kh3 etc.)

GlanzzZzz
Wow
AlbAmchess
rychessmaster1 wrote:

I think if you gave this to 100 gms that know B+N vs K by heart, give them 30 minutes, and put them against the endgame tablebase that plays all the best moves, 80 of them would mess up the win entirely, 19 of them would eventually win but it would take more than 50 to win the knight, and one of them would win the game

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James-Nguyen
Roger436 wrote:
ninja888 wrote:
Roger436 wrote:

Ry: Engine says mate in 73

Also ry: win in 50 moves

what

Ry means to win the knight within 50 moves and then checkmate with N+B

that doesn't work in the real game though due to 50 move rule

If you win the knight in 50 moves you get another 50 because its a capture duh roger 

rychessmaster1
 

BacoNCheese_Nugget wrote:
Typewriter44 wrote:

 

1. Ba7 Nc8?? 2. Ng3# ??? 

But I think after 1. Ba7 Ne4 2. Bb6!? Nf2+ Kg3 draw?? (repetition on Nf2+ Kg3 Ne4+ Kh3 etc.)

2. Bb6 is wrong and I believe it is drawn after that

2. Be3! Is the easiest and fastest and then I believe it goes like Nf2 Kg3 Ne4 Kf3 etc etc 

When I get back to a tablebase I’ll talk about it in more detail 

jamesstack

Kind of curious was this a study or an actual game? If you won this position in an actual game I think its really impressive...especially if it was an OTB game.

rychessmaster1
jamesstack wrote:

Kind of curious was this a study or an actual game? If you won this position in an actual game I think its really impressive...especially if it was an OTB game.

Oh god no

I was messing with a tablebase and thought the position looked nice and interesting to see if anybody could try for the technique on their own

Im actually going to try and solve it myself now, even though I looked at the tablebase I don’t remember all the lines 

rychessmaster1

I looked at this and I tried to think of a way this could be reached through an actual game

I got nothing

Lol