Begin with pawn endgames
What sections of dvoretsky's endgame manual should I study?
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May 1, 2020
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Toldsted wrote:
Begin with pawn endgames
I already learned them, but thanks for answering.
May 1, 2020
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Nobody 'learns' pawn endings! Exept maybe Magnus. Even GMs makes mistakes in pawn endings. If you have learned the basics then move on to the more complicated.
May 1, 2020
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Toldsted wrote:
Nobody 'learns' pawn endings! Exept maybe Magnus. Even GMs makes mistakes in pawn endings. If you have learned the basics then move on to the more complicated.
Thanks for the suggestion, but other than pawn endings and rook endings which endings are the most important?
May 1, 2020
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#6
Well it is said that Knight endings really is pawn endings. So the answer must then be Bishop endings. Maybe specially opposit coloured bishops.
I think rook vs pawn(s) endgames are worth a look. They happen quite often at the end of a rook endgame, and they are sometimes quite tricky to play (Goryachkina failed to win a winning R vs P recently). Like in rook endgames, a bit of theoretical study helps greatly to get the right ideas.
May 1, 2020
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Only the sections that cover the types of endgames you want to get better at. 
May 1, 2020
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Nerwal wrote:
I think rook vs pawn(s) endgames are worth a look. They happen quite often at the end of a rook endgame, and they are sometimes quite tricky to play (Goryachkina failed to win a winning R vs P recently). Like in rook endgames, a bit of theoretical study helps greatly to get the right ideas.
I also studied them, but thanks for the advice.
An_asparagusic_acid a écrit :
Nerwal wrote:
I think rook vs pawn(s) endgames are worth a look. They happen quite often at the end of a rook endgame, and they are sometimes quite tricky to play (Goryachkina failed to win a winning R vs P recently). Like in rook endgames, a bit of theoretical study helps greatly to get the right ideas.
I also studied them, but thanks for the advice.
Don't thank me, write a more specific question next time. So far you've wasted the time of all the people who tried to answer.
May 1, 2020
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Nerwal wrote:
An_asparagusic_acid a écrit :
Nerwal wrote:
I think rook vs pawn(s) endgames are worth a look. They happen quite often at the end of a rook endgame, and they are sometimes quite tricky to play (Goryachkina failed to win a winning R vs P recently). Like in rook endgames, a bit of theoretical study helps greatly to get the right ideas.
I also studied them, but thanks for the advice.
Don't thank me, write a more specific question next time. So far you've wasted the time of all the people who tried to answer.
Well, it would be helpful to rank the sections in terms of importance.
I don't have the book so you can just tell me that you've already studied that too.
Jun 7, 2020
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#14
You want to study them in the following order:
- Pawn Endgames
- Knight and Pawn Endgames
- Bishop and Pawn Endgames
- Bishop of Opposite Color Endgames
- Bishop of Same Color Endgames
- Bishop vs Knight Endgames
- Rook and Pawn Endgames
- Rook vs Knight/Bishop Endgames
- Queen Endgames
- Queen vs Rook Endgames
If you have mastered all of those, it is time to start looking for some GM-norm tournaments to play in.
Jun 7, 2020
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PawnTsunami wrote:
You want to study them in the following order:
- Pawn Endgames
- Knight and Pawn Endgames
- Bishop and Pawn Endgames
- Bishop of Opposite Color Endgames
- Bishop of Same Color Endgames
- Bishop vs Knight Endgames
- Rook and Pawn Endgames
- Rook vs Knight/Bishop Endgames
- Queen Endgames
- Queen vs Rook Endgames
If you have mastered all of those, it is time to start looking for some GM-norm tournaments to play in.
The rook endgame section is the most important section.
Jun 7, 2020
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An_asparagusic_acid wrote:
The rook endgame section is the most important section.
Which is why you build up to it. But like I said, if you have mastered all of those, sign up for some GM-norm tournaments.
An_asparagusic_acid wrote:
PawnTsunami wrote:
You want to study them in the following order:
- Pawn Endgames
- Knight and Pawn Endgames
- Bishop and Pawn Endgames
- Bishop of Opposite Color Endgames
- Bishop of Same Color Endgames
- Bishop vs Knight Endgames
- Rook and Pawn Endgames
- Rook vs Knight/Bishop Endgames
- Queen Endgames
- Queen vs Rook Endgames
If you have mastered all of those, it is time to start looking for some GM-norm tournaments to play in.
The rook endgame section is the most important section.
Then why did you ask the question if you already knew the answer?
Dude read the whole book.
Jun 8, 2020
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sockpuppet73 wrote:
Other than Rook endings, which are obviously the most frequently occurring endings and therefore most important to study, you should study Bishop vs. Knight endgames, because they are the second most frequent type of ending and learning them will get you a bigger bang for your buck than memorising a bunch of pawnless endings that are never going to happen in practical play. Also, don't listen to the guy telling you to leave rook endings till the end because they are the most important? that's the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.
You obviously have never picked up a copy of "Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual".
Jun 8, 2020
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PawnTsunami wrote:
sockpuppet73 wrote:
Other than Rook endings, which are obviously the most frequently occurring endings and therefore most important to study, you should study Bishop vs. Knight endgames, because they are the second most frequent type of ending and learning them will get you a bigger bang for your buck than memorising a bunch of pawnless endings that are never going to happen in practical play. Also, don't listen to the guy telling you to leave rook endings till the end because they are the most important? that's the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.
You obviously have never picked up a copy of "Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual".
The rook endgame section is the most useful.
What are the most important sections excluding rook endgames?