Any tips for a slow beginner?

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sushi-volcano wrote:

do tactics.

 So cliche it actually hurts to read it spewed once again. Let me counter, as i once did, with do visualization exercises and go over games with advanced player input from positions where you didn't know what to do (not necessarily positions where you messed up). The idea is to hone in skills that are the invisible building blocks to tactics and positional chess and all that is touted as the way to get better in chess...

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wornaki wrote:
sushi-volcano wrote:

do tactics.

 So cliche it actually hurts to read it spewed once again. Let me counter, as i once did, with do visualization exercises and go over games with advanced player input from positions where you didn't know what to do (not necessarily positions where you messed up). The idea is to hone in skills that are the invisible building blocks to tactics and positional chess and all that is touted as the way to get better in chess...

says the 1000 rated player.

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ModernComedy wrote:
sushi-volcano wrote:
wornaki wrote:
sushi-volcano wrote:

do tactics.

 So cliche it actually hurts to read it spewed once again. Let me counter, as i once did, with do visualization exercises and go over games with advanced player input from positions where you didn't know what to do (not necessarily positions where you messed up). The idea is to hone in skills that are the invisible building blocks to tactics and positional chess and all that is touted as the way to get better in chess...

says the 1000 rated player.

Rating doesn’t always say how lower players can also help in the community. I appreciate that @suchi-volcano is trying to help others 

yes, but would you rather listen to a 1000 or 1600 rated blitz who's only been studying for a year? Trust me, I know all the tricks.

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sushi-volcano wrote:
wornaki wrote:
sushi-volcano wrote:

do tactics.

 So cliche it actually hurts to read it spewed once again. Let me counter, as i once did, with do visualization exercises and go over games with advanced player input from positions where you didn't know what to do (not necessarily positions where you messed up). The idea is to hone in skills that are the invisible building blocks to tactics and positional chess and all that is touted as the way to get better in chess...

says the 1000 rated player.

 

Says the player who presumes HIS advice is the only valid and useful one. If I were a 1500-1700 player like you and had the same advice you would still dismiss it.

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lemme say something that is: The rule that says dont move your pieces twice in the opening is wrong, because what if ur opponet does this:

and ur lost

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and u cant block that without moving ur pieces twice unless u play g4

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bruh.

That's just unsound, if you have to do it you do it it has cons that's it

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wdym

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white would have lost a knight and lost

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I mean if you have to move the piece twice you do it, it will have some cons (losing a tempos) but in this line white is still better since well black's opening was unsound

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what about this that is a possible opening

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you move the queen mate because you have to

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Calamity_Destroyer wrote:

lemme say something that is: The rule that says dont move your pieces twice in the opening is wrong, because what if ur opponet does this:

and ur lost

Well who said that you should follow the rules blindly? You should follow them within reason.  happy.png  In this case the opponent moved g pawn twice which is not really developing his pieces, so moving a piece twice is certainly not the end of the world, and you even get a free pawn. So moving pieces only once applies if you opponent plays reasonable and doesn't threaten something right away like in this case.

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then why do people say dont move ur pieces twice in the opening

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Because you shouldn't if your opponent develops fast, in order not to be beaten in the first 10 moves. If he doesn't develop fast and does something like this, you are allowed to punish him if you can.  Moving your pieces once certainly doesn't mean leave your knight hanging because you mustn't move it again. happy.png Certain amount of logic thinking has to be included. There are rules that are applied 90% of the time, but sometimes situation demands of us to be flexible, and make exceptions.

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For instance, look at white's bishop and knight play in this game:


My conversion could be a lot better, but this is a prime example what can happen if someone makes multiple moves with one piece and forgets about developing.

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wornaki wrote:
sushi-volcano wrote:
wornaki wrote:
sushi-volcano wrote:

do tactics.

 So cliche it actually hurts to read it spewed once again. Let me counter, as i once did, with do visualization exercises and go over games with advanced player input from positions where you didn't know what to do (not necessarily positions where you messed up). The idea is to hone in skills that are the invisible building blocks to tactics and positional chess and all that is touted as the way to get better in chess...

says the 1000 rated player.

 

Says the player who presumes HIS advice is the only valid and useful one. If I were a 1500-1700 player like you and had the same advice you would still dismiss it.

I never said my advice was the only valid one. The thing is, aren't tactics also calculation exercises? I really don't like to attack people usually so let's continue this nicely.

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I suggest you do tactic puzzles and lessons. Once you master that, I recommend drills because that can really improve your endgame strategies. You should also make an account on lichess.org, and that will teach beginners how the game works and some good strategies. You can also watch titled players' streams, and you can evaluate how they play.

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nklristic wrote:

For instance, look at white's bishop and knight play in this game:


My conversion could be a lot better, but this is a prime example what can happen if someone makes multiple moves with one piece and forgets about developing.true

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Calamity_Destroyer wrote:
nklristic wrote:

For instance, look at white's bishop and knight play in this game:


My conversion could be a lot better, but this is a prime example what can happen if someone makes multiple moves with one piece and forgets about developing.true

And as for opening principles. I made one move - knight move 6. ...Na6. It is always said that you shouldn't make a knight move on the edge of the board like that Na3/Na6 or Nh3/Nh6. But that was the only move to keep me in the game. And because he moved his knight for the second time to put me in that position in the first place, it is ok. 

But for someone rated 800 for instance, they don't know when it is ok to bend the rules, and by abiding to the rules, they will be ok most of the time. Of course even a weaker player should understand that if your knight is attacked, it is probably a good idea not to let it be captured. happy.png