Anyone interested in learning Go in exchange for teaching Chess?

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To disambiguate, Go is a game also known as weiqi or baduk. I'm looking to improve my skills at chess and in exchange looking for someone who's looking to learn Go. 
(Preferred) Requirements:
- English speaking
- Microphone (webcam optional)
- Willing to put in at least 5+5 hrs a week
- FIDE rated ~1850-2100 or USCF rated 1900-2150 (if you're stronger than that you can still take up this offer but I probably won't be able to teach you to the same level that you are at chess)
- Preferably long term although it's fine to stop at any time if we see it's not working out

About myself: I'm ~2250 rated Go player in EGF (European Go Federation) from Europe, which is equivalent to somewhere around 2400-2450 AGA (American Go Association) with 10+ years of experience and 50 tournaments all over Europe and some in Asia. It's hard to compare ratings between Go and Chess of course, by my best estimate my skill at Go would translate to somewhere at ~2000 FIDE. Another metric would be someone who has no hope to compete at the top level but is good enough to get occasionally invited/flown in/accommodated to invitation-only international tournaments? - Not sure how this works out exactly in the chess world. My experience with chess is very limited - I've got around 250 games in chess.com and some limited amount of live games - 0 tournaments. I'm having difficulty with rapid games while fairing quite well in longer ones, right now only rated ~900 here due to playing lots of rapid, although could probably hold on my own in a classic game at ~1100.

Finally, if you're not interested in learning Go but interested in teaching someone like me I'm still interested - you can message me with how much you charge per hr or per lesson or what you want in return happy.png.

Avatar of long_quach

Try to do it face to face.

That should be the first thing to enter your head.

All this "tele-communication" is secondary.

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Hurakami wrote:

- FIDE rated ~1850-2100 or USCF rated 1900-2150

Old joke, but still good.

Q: What do you have to know in order to teach a dog tricks?

A: More than the dog.

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long_quach wrote:

Try to do it face to face.

Not really possible in these times.

 

long_quach wrote:

Old joke, but still good.

Not sure what's the context for this joke. Are you saying players in that rating category won't be able to teach anything? I highly doubt that happy.png

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In case nobody wants to take you up on that offer, go here:

https://www.chess.com/coaches

 

I am sure you will find someone acceptable there.


Some people say that it is better to study and practice by yourself first before hiring a coach and get to some stronger level than you are at for now. That way you will not have to pay coach to tell you to keep your blunders in check first and show you basic tactical concepts along with opening principles. By studying by yourself you will be sure if you want to proceed further or not.

If you don't know where to start, I can help you out if you are willing to read a little (I will give you a link if you wish). If you are still positive you want to get a coach from the get go, well... I've already gave you the link where you can look. happy.png 

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Hurakami wrote:
long_quach wrote:

Old joke, but still good.

Not sure what's the context for this joke. Are you saying players in that rating category won't be able to teach anything? I highly doubt that

Anybody with a higher rating than you, no matter how small, can teach you.

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long_quach wrote:
Hurakami wrote:
long_quach wrote:

Old joke, but still good.

Not sure what's the context for this joke. Are you saying players in that rating category won't be able to teach anything? I highly doubt that

Anybody with a higher rating than you, no matter how small, can teach you.

Until you snatch the pebble from their hand and then they "can't teach you no more". Grasshopper.

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long_quach wrote:

Anybody with a higher rating than you, no matter how small, can teach you.

"Each one teaches one."

That rhymes.

I learned that on Tony Brown's Journal.

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I will give you a free lesson. In return, you answer a question for me.

Read:

Logical Chess: Move By Move. Chernev.

That will take you very far.

 

Question:

That book is on a website. It is a digital library. You can say it is a pirated copy.

I think knowledge should be preserved and be available to everyone. I think that website does an invaluable service. Most of our literature survived as copies.

What do you think? Theft or public service?

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Logical Chess +1. However, I recommend supporting the people that develop, publish and distribute knowledge by buying a new or second hand copy or borrowing one from a library. If not in your local library, then many offer an inter-library loan service (or at least in the uk they do).

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long_quach wrote: What do you think? Theft or public service?

Both.

And I've found someone to coach me at chess, so I guess we can close this thread happy.png.

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Now is a good time to mention Bookmooch.

It is a private inter-library book trading. You give a book, you get a book.

 

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Hurakami wrote:
long_quach wrote: What do you think? Theft or public service?

Both.

And I've found someone to coach me at chess, so I guess we can close this thread .

Threads are not specifically for you.

Other people have similar questions. It's for other people too.

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MarkGrubb wrote:

Logical Chess +1. However, I recommend supporting the people that develop, publish and distribute knowledge by buying a new or second hand copy or borrowing one from a library. If not in your local library, then many offer an inter-library loan service (or at least in the uk they do).

This is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God.

I downloaded Logical Chess from that "pirate" website.

I also bought 5 (1 in descriptive) copies from Amazon so I can give them to my lady friends.

I cannot "give" an electronic copy as a gift. It's cheap. Electronic copies are essentially shadows and no substance. It's not even light, it's just shadow.

Like Madonna said, "We are living in a material world."

 

I think free electronic copies allow people to see what they are buying.

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@long_quach. I believe you. Thanks for the Bookmooch tip. I'll have a look.

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Hurakami wrote:

To disambiguate, Go is a game also known as weiqi or baduk. I'm looking to improve my skills at chess and in exchange looking for someone who's looking to learn Go. 
(Preferred) Requirements:
- English speaking
- Microphone (webcam optional)
- Willing to put in at least 5+5 hrs a week
- FIDE rated ~1850-2100 or USCF rated 1900-2150 (if you're stronger than that you can still take up this offer but I probably won't be able to teach you to the same level that you are at chess)
- Preferably long term although it's fine to stop at any time if we see it's not working out

About myself: I'm ~2250 rated Go player in EGF (European Go Federation) from Europe, which is equivalent to somewhere around 2400-2450 AGA (American Go Association) with 10+ years of experience and 50 tournaments all over Europe and some in Asia. It's hard to compare ratings between Go and Chess of course, by my best estimate my skill at Go would translate to somewhere at ~2000 FIDE. Another metric would be someone who has no hope to compete at the top level but is good enough to get occasionally invited/flown in/accommodated to invitation-only international tournaments? - Not sure how this works out exactly in the chess world. My experience with chess is very limited - I've got around 250 games in chess.com and some limited amount of live games - 0 tournaments. I'm having difficulty with rapid games while fairing quite well in longer ones, right now only rated ~900 here due to playing lots of rapid, although could probably hold on my own in a classic game at ~1100.

Finally, if you're not interested in learning Go but interested in teaching someone like me I'm still interested - you can message me with how much you charge per hr or per lesson or what you want in return .

a little too much requirements for a pro coach to do it since they dont really care they jus tt want cash but i know they're are free coaches 

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or some who u pay like 1 dollar an hour and are like 2400 fide

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duntcare wrote:

a little too much requirements for a pro coach to do it since they dont really care they jus tt want cash but i know they're are free coaches 

or some who u pay like 1 dollar an hour and are like 2400 fide

The "requirements" don't apply only for pro coaches. And I'd be fine with paying 50$-100$ an hour but I'm sure that's not enough for a strong GM to coach me, although I don't know the prices in chess world. Anyway, I already found a person who's willing to teach me, we actually met in one of the international Go tournaments and he's pretty good at chess. And by some coincidence saw this post happy.png. What are the odds! 

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Hurakami wrote:
duntcare wrote:

a little too much requirements for a pro coach to do it since they dont really care they jus tt want cash but i know they're are free coaches 

or some who u pay like 1 dollar an hour and are like 2400 fide

The "requirements" don't apply only for pro coaches. And I'd be fine with paying 50$-100$ an hour but I'm sure that's not enough for a strong GM to coach me, although I don't know the prices in chess world. Anyway, I already found a person who's willing to teach me, we actually met in one of the international Go tournaments and he's pretty good at chess. And by some coincidence saw this post . What are the odds! 

that is as long as they arent famous, the famous ones say are like 0.5 better but charge u like 1m per minute or something, the non famouse are slightly uh a bit worse but 50 is overpaying, u can find like a 2500 strong for very cheap, no joke, it is nice that you alr found a good coach grin.png 

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I have found Go

to be quite difficult to comprehend. 
But Chess very easily explained and teachable to the undisciplined mind.

Why is that ?