Chess Slump at 1000

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I am slumping really hard at 1000 and has gone on a multiple losing streak right now. Any tips to break that slump aside from studying Chess (cause I hate studying in general and too sick to learn) or taking a break (cause this will cause tons of rust in my skills)?

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Sorry to say that but without learning you will hardly make any progress. If you want to get better you will have to find the motivation to learn or the learning method which you can enjoy.

There are great ways to do that for example go trough games with commentars of great players, watch educational videos which are not boring or solve puzzles which in my opinion is also fun.

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M_Erno wrote:

Sorry to say that but without learning you will hardly make any progress. If you want to get better you will have to find the motivation to learn or the learning method which you can enjoy.

There are great ways to do that for example go trough games with commentars of great players, watch educational videos which are not boring or solve puzzles which in my opinion is also fun.

Fair point, prob could memorize the Italian and french game one more time to help shorten the time in order to focus more in the middle game

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centerofstar kirjoitti:
M_Erno wrote:

Sorry to say that but without learning you will hardly make any progress. If you want to get better you will have to find the motivation to learn or the learning method which you can enjoy.

There are great ways to do that for example go trough games with commentars of great players, watch educational videos which are not boring or solve puzzles which in my opinion is also fun.

Fair point, prob could memorize the Italian and french game one more time to help shorten the time in order to focus more in the middle game

Do not try to memorize the openings, try to understand the ideas.

Learning theoretical lines 20 moves deep will not help below 1000 or below 1500 really.

Sure it is useful to know the first moves of the main lines, but 99% of the time your opponent will be out of book on move 5 and then you are on your own so deep opening knowledge is not very useful at beginner level. Sudy the opening principles, common middlegame ideas for the openings you like and basic endgames instead.

Chess is not really a memory game.

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centerofstar wrote:

prob could memorize the Italian and french game one more time to help shorten the time

Am I the only one who does not understand this at all? What does "memorize the Italian and french game" mean? And how would that shorten time and for what?

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magipi kirjoitti:
centerofstar wrote:

prob could memorize the Italian and french game one more time to help shorten the time

Am I the only one who does not understand this at all? What does "memorize the Italian and french game" mean? And how would that shorten time and for what?

You are probably not the only one who does not understand, but luckily I think I do.

Memorizing would mean memorizing the main lines in a book about the openings mentioned.

And shortening the time would probably mean taking less time in the opening and thus having more time in the middle game and end game stages.

Pretty simple actually, unless you put effort into trying not to understand it.

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Habanababananero wrote:

And shortening the time would probably mean taking less time in the opening and thus having more time in the middle game and end game stages.

Pretty simple actually, unless you put effort into trying not to understand it.

I would have never guessed that one, even if I had 10 guesses. But reading it again, your interpretation is probably correct.

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Play a lot, analyze your games, and primarily study tactics. Your knowledge of openings, endgame, middlegame, etc. will come from analyzing your games and going over grandmaster games. Only study one of those specific topics if it is clear you are specifically losing because of that topic.

Source: https://www.gautamnarula.com/how-to-get-good-at-chess-fast/

As a coach, I can help you with any part of that process. Good luck! happy.png

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Habanababananero wrote:
centerofstar kirjoitti:
M_Erno wrote:

Sorry to say that but without learning you will hardly make any progress. If you want to get better you will have to find the motivation to learn or the learning method which you can enjoy.

There are great ways to do that for example go trough games with commentars of great players, watch educational videos which are not boring or solve puzzles which in my opinion is also fun.

Fair point, prob could memorize the Italian and french game one more time to help shorten the time in order to focus more in the middle game

Do not try to memorize the openings, try to understand the ideas.

Learning theoretical lines 20 moves deep will not help below 1000 or below 1500 really.

Sure it is useful to know the first moves of the main lines, but 99% of the time your opponent will be out of book on move 5 and then you are on your own so deep opening knowledge is not very useful at beginner level. Sudy the opening principles, common middlegame ideas for the openings you like and basic endgames instead.

Chess is not really a memory game.

That Make sense, I think I've had the entire learning process all wrong. I had this firm belive that if I have a strong opening and solid middle game through heavy memorization and solid understanding of the center line , I should be good to go.

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magipi wrote:
Habanababananero wrote:

And shortening the time would probably mean taking less time in the opening and thus having more time in the middle game and end game stages.

Pretty simple actually, unless you put effort into trying not to understand it.

I would have never guessed that one, even if I had 10 guesses. But reading it again, your interpretation is probably correct.

Yeah basically there are lists of opening book moves to choose from and the purpose of memorizing and practicing constantly is to do the opening with pure instinct. Just like with Martial Arts and Video Game Skills, the more you practice and memorized, the better and faster you can execute without needing to think much. 
Plus one of my main tactic is to pressure time control and win quite a lot of games against stronger opponents by playing faster than them and run out the clock.

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ChessMasteryOfficial wrote:

Play a lot, analyze your games, and primarily study tactics. Your knowledge of openings, endgame, middlegame, etc. will come from analyzing your games and going over grandmaster games. Only study one of those specific topics if it is clear you are specifically losing because of that topic.

Source: https://www.gautamnarula.com/how-to-get-good-at-chess-fast/

As a coach, I can help you with any part of that process. Good luck!

That's helpful, Thanks

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centerofstar kirjoitti:
magipi wrote:
Habanababananero wrote:

And shortening the time would probably mean taking less time in the opening and thus having more time in the middle game and end game stages.

Pretty simple actually, unless you put effort into trying not to understand it.

I would have never guessed that one, even if I had 10 guesses. But reading it again, your interpretation is probably correct.

Yeah basically there are lists of opening book moves to choose from and the purpose of memorizing and practicing constantly is to do the opening with pure instinct. Just like with Martial Arts and Video Game Skills, the more you practice and memorized, the better and faster you can execute without needing to think much. 
Plus one of my main tactic is to pressure time control and win quite a lot of games against stronger opponents by playing faster than them and run out the clock.

I do not think it is a very good idea to use running down the clock as a strategy if you aim to improve your chess skills. Always try to win by checkmate.

You might get some wins that way, but all you learn doing it is moving the pieces fast.

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Dear Centerofstar,

I am a certified, full-time chess coach, so I hope I can help you. happy.png Everybody is different, so that's why there isn't only one general way to learn. First of all, you have to discover your biggest weaknesses in the game and start working on them. The most effective way for that is analyzing your own games. Of course, if you are a beginner, you can't do it efficiently because you don't know too much about the game yet. There is a built-in engine on chess.com which can show you if a move is good or bad but the only problem is that it can't explain to you the plans, ideas behind the moves, so you won't know why it is so good or bad.

You can learn from books or Youtube channels as well, and maybe you can find a lot of useful information there but these sources are mostly general things and not personalized at all. That's why you need a good coach sooner or later if you really want to be better at chess. A good coach can help you with identifying your biggest weaknesses and explain everything, so you can leave your mistakes behind you. Of course, you won't apply everything immediately, this is a learning process (like learning languages), but if you are persistent and enthusiastic, you will achieve your goals. happy.png

In my opinion, chess has 4 main territories (openings, strategies, tactics/combinations and endgames). If you want to improve efficiently, you should improve all of these skills almost at the same time. That's what my training program is based on. My students really like it because the lessons are not boring (because we talk about more than one areas within one lesson) and they feel the improvement on the longer run. Of course, there are always ups and downs but this is completely normal in everyone's career.

I hope this is helpful for you. Good luck with your games! happy.png