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don't quit

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CockroachGirly wrote:
HunterSnep wrote:

Hey everyone, I have just recently gotten into chess. My rating is abysmal (typically 150-200 but even lower today) and I have heard I should be at 400-500 naturally if I have any potential in chess. I have fun playing usually but lately I have been feeling like I cant get better at the game. I have tried reviewing my games and trying to focus on just not hanging pieces, but I keep making stupid mistakes and playing like hot garbage. Its starting to get to the point that I feel like I should give up trying to learn. I don't want to be the best chess player ever. I just want to see some improvement but I feel like I'm stuck and I'm just inherently so bad at chess there is no point in continuing to learn.

Intelligent post, until one sees your games. Your rating is exactly where you need to be, because you make 0 effort in taking your time to think through moves. What do you expect when you randomly move pieces around the board and give them away for free?

Pointing out my mistakes is fine. Being rude about it is not. I never claimed to be a higher rating than I am just that I am struggling to learn. There is no need to act like this.

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HunterSnep hat geschrieben:
CockroachGirly wrote:
HunterSnep wrote:

Hey everyone, I have just recently gotten into chess. My rating is abysmal (typically 150-200 but even lower today) and I have heard I should be at 400-500 naturally if I have any potential in chess. I have fun playing usually but lately I have been feeling like I cant get better at the game. I have tried reviewing my games and trying to focus on just not hanging pieces, but I keep making stupid mistakes and playing like hot garbage. Its starting to get to the point that I feel like I should give up trying to learn. I don't want to be the best chess player ever. I just want to see some improvement but I feel like I'm stuck and I'm just inherently so bad at chess there is no point in continuing to learn.

Intelligent post, until one sees your games. Your rating is exactly where you need to be, because you make 0 effort in taking your time to think through moves. What do you expect when you randomly move pieces around the board and give them away for free?

Pointing out my mistakes is fine. Being rude about it is not. I never claimed to be a higher rating than I am just that I am struggling to learn. There is no need to act like this.

ignore that troll, we all started where you did. Chess is considered very hard for a reason, good chess players are considered smart for a reason, if you wanna play me sometime i can give u some pointers

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Just had a wee look at your game history. So yesterday (October 13th) you played SEVEN 10 minute rapid games.

In my opinion that is too much playing.

I'm by no means a chess expert BUT I am a relatively new Chess player who was right where you were fairly recently and I've managed to get up to 800 (Rapid) and 1200 (Daily) since the beginning of the year and I know how I done that and what advice I was given and what worked.

So basically I think

1. Play fewer games but play longer formats

2. Do puzzles and I mean A LOT of puzzles. Set yourself a goal of doing 10 per day or 20 per day etc... When you do puzzles every day, you wont really notice any improvement initially in your Chess game but over time, you are effectively re-wiring your brain & pattern recognition skills and you will just gradually start to spot things in the middle of games that you never spotted before.

3. Watch some YouTube tutorials for beginners. Don't go for videos with titles like "Learn this one opening to crush everyone blah blah blah..." I'd recommend Gotham Chess who has an excellent series of videos for players under 500 ELO where he very clearly explains some basic principles to follow. "Chess vibes" is another great channel with excellent instruction videos for beginners where he talks you through his thought process in every move.

I'm no Chess expert but I am new enough to remember thinking that an ELO of even 500 was like climbing a mountain but it's really not with a bit of effort, so long as the effort is channelled in the right way.

You played seven 10 minute rapid games yesterday, so that's probably about 2 hours devoted to chess with no discernible improvement. I promise you, if you spend even half that time on puzzles, watching beginner videos that I mentioned above and then playing maybe just ONE 20-30 minute game, you will start to reap the benefits over time.

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HunterSnep wrote:

Hey everyone, I have just recently gotten into chess. My rating is abysmal (typically 150-200 but even lower today) and I have heard I should be at 400-500 naturally if I have any potential in chess. I have fun playing usually but lately I have been feeling like I cant get better at the game. I have tried reviewing my games and trying to focus on just not hanging pieces, but I keep making stupid mistakes and playing like hot garbage. Its starting to get to the point that I feel like I should give up trying to learn. I don't want to be the best chess player ever. I just want to see some improvement but I feel like I'm stuck and I'm just inherently so bad at chess there is no point in continuing to learn.

You might as well use ur diamond membership before it runs out...

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game review and insights could be a big help for you

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Hey, it's me again. And I'm going to reiterate what I said before. Play the Bots!! Select some of the lowest rated bots and use Friendly or even Assisted level to get a good feel for the game and where the pieces belong and how to attack and defend and how to take advantage of an opponent's mistake, etc. Right now, playing 10-minute games (and only using 3 minutes) is getting you nowhere. Plus, if you're playing people who are at the same low level, the two of you are just going to blunder each other into a win quite by accident. What you need right now is SUCCESS. You need to feel that you are getting a handle on this game and that you are moving in the right direction--up. By all means, keep playing real people, but maybe only one or two games a day. Your focus right now should be on learning--and puzzles, lessons, bots, practice, endgames (all the stuff under the Learn tab) is where you want to be. Above all, don't quit. Chess is one of the greatest hobbies you can have, and it will reward you with a lifetime of fun and enjoyment.

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HunterSnep wrote:
CockroachGirly wrote:
HunterSnep wrote:

Hey everyone, I have just recently gotten into chess. My rating is abysmal (typically 150-200 but even lower today) and I have heard I should be at 400-500 naturally if I have any potential in chess. I have fun playing usually but lately I have been feeling like I cant get better at the game. I have tried reviewing my games and trying to focus on just not hanging pieces, but I keep making stupid mistakes and playing like hot garbage. Its starting to get to the point that I feel like I should give up trying to learn. I don't want to be the best chess player ever. I just want to see some improvement but I feel like I'm stuck and I'm just inherently so bad at chess there is no point in continuing to learn.

Intelligent post, until one sees your games. Your rating is exactly where you need to be, because you make 0 effort in taking your time to think through moves. What do you expect when you randomly move pieces around the board and give them away for free?

Pointing out my mistakes is fine. Being rude about it is not. I never claimed to be a higher rating than I am just that I am struggling to learn. There is no need to act like this.

Bruh she's just giving feedback on ur games. It may sound rude but it's just telling you what ur doing wrong. But oh well nobody likes to be told they're wrong anyways.

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Ironguard5s hat geschrieben:
HunterSnep wrote:
CockroachGirly wrote:
HunterSnep wrote:

Hey everyone, I have just recently gotten into chess. My rating is abysmal (typically 150-200 but even lower today) and I have heard I should be at 400-500 naturally if I have any potential in chess. I have fun playing usually but lately I have been feeling like I cant get better at the game. I have tried reviewing my games and trying to focus on just not hanging pieces, but I keep making stupid mistakes and playing like hot garbage. Its starting to get to the point that I feel like I should give up trying to learn. I don't want to be the best chess player ever. I just want to see some improvement but I feel like I'm stuck and I'm just inherently so bad at chess there is no point in continuing to learn.

Intelligent post, until one sees your games. Your rating is exactly where you need to be, because you make 0 effort in taking your time to think through moves. What do you expect when you randomly move pieces around the board and give them away for free?

Pointing out my mistakes is fine. Being rude about it is not. I never claimed to be a higher rating than I am just that I am struggling to learn. There is no need to act like this.

Bruh she's just giving feedback on ur games. It may sound rude but it's just telling you what ur doing wrong. But oh well nobody likes to be told they're wrong anyways.

Its actually basically harassment, might file a report. Pointing out a mistake can be done without insulting a person. And maybe read roaches Bio, youll see that she aint a good person

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Since nobody has made the effort to pick a game and analyse it for you, I will do that.

Some observations follow afterwards:

?? means blunder

As you can see you did a few mistakes

1) not so severe but also not good: you have the ideal centre with e5/d5 and decide to give that up. By played exd4 you enable your opponent to get rid of the bad e3-pawn (which activates his bishop)

2) From move 8 your knight is hanging in the air and neither you nor your opponent really did something with it until move 13

3) you played 16...Ne4+ and lost a knight

4) You played Qxh4 and gave up your queen for a pawn

How can you improve:

a) play longer games (30min)
b) take your time, do not play 20 moves in 2min.
c) figure out if something can be captured before you move
d) before moving figure out if something is free to be catpured after your intended move
e) play less games

Hope this helps you.

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play longer games (30min)

b) take your time, do not play 20 moves in 2min// im just gonna take that OOC because people like to miss this part, Its one of my own pet peeves to play insanely fast, but i am 1800, and my intuition is fairly good, below 1500 you should remind yourself every 5 moves to take a minimum of 10 seconds, and if you did 20 moves in under 2 minutes take 15-30s to evaluate position and look for long terms plan, correct me if im wrong there @Petrosian94

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MSteen wrote:

not bots

What is so bad about bots? I find that playing bots helps me see jarring errors.

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Sargon_Three wrote:
MSteen wrote:

not bots

What is so bad about bots? I find that playing bots helps me see jarring errors.

bots play in a very strange way - compared to humans. They do articifical mistakes and their play does not resemble human play

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HunterSnep wrote:

Hey everyone, I have just recently gotten into chess. My rating is abysmal (typically 150-200 but even lower today) and I have heard I should be at 400-500 naturally if I have any potential in chess. I have fun playing usually but lately I have been feeling like I cant get better at the game. I have tried reviewing my games and trying to focus on just not hanging pieces, but I keep making stupid mistakes and playing like hot garbage. Its starting to get to the point that I feel like I should give up trying to learn. I don't want to be the best chess player ever. I just want to see some improvement but I feel like I'm stuck and I'm just inherently so bad at chess there is no point in continuing to learn.

I don't know who told you that 400-500 is where you should be at, but it's just wrong. Different people naturally stabilize at different starting points, but you'll have to slowly climb the rating ladder like the rest of us. If just learned the rules and starting, then being 100-200 range is understandable. It takes a lot to improve at chess. You can improve a ton in just a few weeks or months if you have the right guidance, or do the "correct things" but it's going to take a lot of effort to do.

Don't quit because you don't match the level you heard was expected; what you heard is simply untrue. I know people who started really low and stayed there for years, but then shot up in rating and are now super strong players; for them it just took a long time to finally "click." Other people improve a lot right away with minimal effort, but then they plateau at a different level. Everyone is different, but you certainly aren't doomed because you aren't shooting up the rating ladder right away.

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HunterSnep wrote:

Hey everyone, I have just recently gotten into chess. My rating is abysmal (typically 150-200 but even lower today) and I have heard I should be at 400-500 naturally if I have any potential in chess. I have fun playing usually but lately I have been feeling like I cant get better at the game. I have tried reviewing my games and trying to focus on just not hanging pieces, but I keep making stupid mistakes and playing like hot garbage. Its starting to get to the point that I feel like I should give up trying to learn. I don't want to be the best chess player ever. I just want to see some improvement but I feel like I'm stuck and I'm just inherently so bad at chess there is no point in continuing to learn.

Chess plateau. Happens to everyone.

Any rating you start at (so long as its not negative happy) has plenty of potential. Thousands of players on this site have started off 100-200 and progressed to the 1000s and above.

Plateau is more common (and easier to break) in beginners. My advice: learn all the basic tactics (forks, pins, skewers), settle on a good opening (at your level, King's pawn is most sound) and develop your knights first, then bishops. Learn from your mistakes, and learn to see threats. Do puzzles and lessons (limited if you don't have premium, but still useful), and you'll do fine. I make a more thorough explanation on this topic here:

https://www.chess.com/blog/Ethanchock7/how-to-un-plateau-yourself-and-win-more-games

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Ethanchock7 hat geschrieben:
HunterSnep wrote:

Hey everyone, I have just recently gotten into chess. My rating is abysmal (typically 150-200 but even lower today) and I have heard I should be at 400-500 naturally if I have any potential in chess. I have fun playing usually but lately I have been feeling like I cant get better at the game. I have tried reviewing my games and trying to focus on just not hanging pieces, but I keep making stupid mistakes and playing like hot garbage. Its starting to get to the point that I feel like I should give up trying to learn. I don't want to be the best chess player ever. I just want to see some improvement but I feel like I'm stuck and I'm just inherently so bad at chess there is no point in continuing to learn.

Chess plateau. Happens to everyone.

Any rating you start at (so long as its not negative ) has plenty of potential. Thousands of players on this site have started off 100-200 and progressed to the 1000s and above.

Plateau is more common (and easier to break) in beginners. My advice: learn all the basic tactics (forks, pins, skewers), settle on a good opening (at your level, King's pawn is most sound) and develop your knights first, then bishops. Learn from your mistakes, and learn to see threats. Do puzzles and lessons (limited if you don't have premium, but still useful), and you'll do fine. I make a more thorough explanation on this topic here:

https://www.chess.com/blog/Ethanchock7/how-to-un-plateau-yourself-and-win-more-games

My 1000 plateau took me only 1 month to break, my 1600 plateau took me 4 months, so its way easier the lower ,ou are

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Thanks everyone for the advice! I will be making an effort to slow down and play less games in a row. I will also continue studying. I was having a pretty bad day due to external factors at that time after calming down and talking with some of you I have plenty of motivation!

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dont quit bebe,every blunder you make gets you into a better place.i believe in u 👽❤

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Yo bro, jus don't give up, chess is hard man, it takes time to improve one's games, i've been sitting for months at the same rating, you only started in september, it's october why you already thinking of quitting, be patient, work hard and I promise that you will become what you aspire to be in chess. Jus wait for time to do what you want.

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I've been where you've been, its very hard to get out of that range, but believe in yourself, once you've gone past that rating, you will fly like a falcon, that's what happened to me, just believe, that's all you need, and watch some YouTube Videos, watch some Chess.com Videos, do some puzzles, you'll explode from that rating.