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magipi wrote:
ellipsis_GG wrote:
So, a couple more points, why chess is a lousy game.
You are doing great. First you complain about the most basic rules, then you insult the entire chess community, and now you insult the game itself. On a chess website. This is the way to get popular.
Maybe you should just leave and never come back.
Maybe you guys insult yourselves... afterall, i echo what Fischer said about chess... and, what YOU guys said... 600 millions cant understand it, apparently. 
Popular? That is easy, just suck up to the most popular opinion... but nobody here talks about the points i made. Hey, that makes sense! That would be a mature response.
Check this, on how many levels this hits hard here? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Sn8EkqOxpvg See, that is the real. Can you unstuck?
Truth, and justice... virtues to be upheld.
ellipsis_GG wrote:
So the question is quite funny... are these 600 millions of people reasonable, or just fools for rules. Game theory and development. Think about it.
It doesnt require any thought. Any way you look at it, you are wrong!
Tempetown wrote:
ellipsis_GG wrote:
So the question is quite funny... are these 600 millions of people reasonable, or just fools for rules. Game theory and development. Think about it.
It doesnt require any thought. Any way you look at it, you are wrong!
Okay, how am i wrong, cause i explain how i am right? I already did... can you explain how am i wrong? I know, rulesrulesrules and 600 million supposed to mean somethin... well, here is the memo - the rules dont make much sense.
The point is... its a win. Maybe not as clean, but its a win.
long_quach wrote:
It's just an idiosyncrasy of the rules of Western chess.
In Chinese chess, it is a win.
In Korean chess, it is a "pass".
Okay, that is some insight. Thank you.
Sorry, no win. You missed the goal, even though you are very close.
Here is another analogy why:
Lets assume you are in the garden under an apple tree and you are hungry. There is an apple hanging on the tree but you can't reach it.
Would you argue that you are no longer hungry, because the apple can't escape?
'Sometimes' you have to accept reality
Jan 30, 2025
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#29
Chess doesn't depend on material advantage.In chess the goal is to checkmate the opponent.Checkmate is not equal to stalemate
Don't like the rule? Checkmate the opponent!
Not skilled enough to do so? Then skill issue!
Jan 30, 2025
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#30
It's not a win.Russia has lot more army than Ukraine.But if the Russian troops surround Ukraine but are not able to invade it Is it a win? No!
Jan 30, 2025
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#31
If you don't like the rules and the game then close your account !
Don't know how to do so?Simply search on YouTube "How to close my chess.com account ?"!
Jan 30, 2025
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#32
If I would have failed to checkmate the opponent with a queen,2 rooks and 2 bishops I would rather close my account and learn chess first.I suggest you to do the same.
Jan 30, 2025
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#33
And even after playing such a terrible move blundering stalemate with 27 points of material,you have the audacity to post it in a forum.On the top of that,you also try to cover your skill issue and claim that a rule is invalid? Sorry to say but Chess doesn't seem to be your cup of tea.
Jan 30, 2025
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#34
insane wrote:
OP, by your logic this is a win for white.
Or this
White to play
but this would be a win for Black
White to play
Obvious isn't it?
Ysegrim wrote:
Sorry, no win. You missed the goal, even though you are very close.
Here is another analogy why:
Lets assume you are in the garden under an apple tree and you are hungry. There is an apple hanging on the tree but you can't reach it.
Would you argue that you are no longer hungry, because the apple can't escape?
'Sometimes' you have to accept reality
Nah... because its a war game, not picking apples... surround is perfectly viable strategy. I mean, For most cases, it is better than direct confrontation, as it leads to surrender.
Yeah, its a skill issue, not being real about it.
MARattigan wrote:
insane wrote:
OP, by your logic this is a win for white.
Or this
White to play
but this would be a win for Black
White to play
Obvious isn't it?
Doesnt even look like a real game... but i would tell em to break formation, and reapproach. And for white, stop waste time, and resign.
ChessIsAGoodBoardGame wrote:
If I would have failed to checkmate the opponent with a queen,2 rooks and 2 bishops I would rather close my account and learn chess first.I suggest you to do the same.
If i know life, why would i learn chess... i just play some, and i see nonsense... That is the root of all evil... to see no evil, speak no evil, and hear no evil, when it is there. That is denial, and those in denial are bound to suffer the consequences of their denial... and maybe in their shortsightedness they feel like it benefits them, but in a broader sense, naa...
Jan 30, 2025
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#38
... but i would tell em to break formation, and reapproach
Would you also tell them how to go about it after Kc1 in the first diagram? What moves would you recommend for Black?
Jan 30, 2025
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#39
ellipsis_GG wrote:
nklristic wrote:
Think of it as an equivalent of surrounding the enemy, then getting drunk celebrating, letting him escape to fight another day.
Now on a serious note. The goal of the game is to checkmate. In this game you lost the ability to checkmate the opponent, so it is an automatic draw. You need to make sure not to allow a situation where the opponent doesn't have legal moves while not being in check.
There are much deeper reasons why stalemate exists, the game of chess would be more straightforward otherwise. One pawn advantage would mean more etc.
Take this example. If stalemate was a win, than this would be a win:
White can't promote a pawn, can't make any kind of progress but this would be a win if stalemate was a win. There are more complex examples as well, and this would make the game of chess unbalanced and poorer so to speak.
For instance there are basically examples where the winning side makes a mistake and allows a series of checks where it is either a perpetual check and a draw because of it, by repeating the position 3 times, or the side that made a mistake has to take the piece and allows a stalemate.
Some beautiful and creative saves wouldn't exist.
Here is more on stalemate, try to understand it completely in order to not allow it in the future.
https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8557490-what-is-stalemate
First of all, the analogy is not valid, as there is no way to slip out.
The goal is to win. There is draw, and there are mates: check mate, and stale mate. Stale might not be as good, but a mate is a mate - win. As i said, if you let a surrounded king move, hes off the board with the next move.
Now the issue here is that the game here doesnt recognize that draw is not the same as stalemate, therefore, i want my points.
Maybe its not as clean as checkmate, but its still a win.
That is a fundamental issue, and that has nothing to do with chess.
See, here, i have chess community in checkmate, and i mean, its like, check - its mate. Either you fix your faulty rules, or dont, but that would be what makes life stale
.Learn to make the rules - call the admins, call the devs. Stop noob.
Simply superior logic.
And compare the board in your example, and mine... yours, very close game, mine, total obliteration.
Or you can think about the move, while the time runs out...
Changing the rules of a game that has been around for over 1500 years is pointless. This is how the game works and has always worked. This is a board game, not a life simulation.
Jan 30, 2025
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#40
There was this episode of Black Adder back in the 80's I believe. King Richard goes to a crusade, and finds himself surrounded by 20 000 enemy soldiers, armed with just a piece of cutlery. In the end he comes back victorious, being happy that they were no match for him and his dining knife.
OP should be happy we don't use that rule here, as he would have lost the game.
OP, by your logic this is a win for white.
False, but here is the easy recap.
The issue is that the winning condition is mate...
Surrounded unit is surrounded - cant make a move - time runs out, and i can wait, but the manner thing would be to just resign. And, if it could move, it is knocked whatever the move - that is not a draw. Draw is when neither can be caught. So, i want my points - for the cap. Simple.
And that is also another issue... why is there some nooby restriction preventing mistakes with king? Its part of the game. Choices.
So, a couple more points, why chess is a lousy game.
Υou are likely an old guy. Apparently Ian Anderson had you in mind when he wrote the "Thick as a Brick" album.