Chess is a lifelong pursuit, some people can be "beginner strength" for years after getting started in the chess scene. I'd agree that all under 1000s are still beginners. Hell, I feel like a beginner sometimes and I just cracked 2000. There's no definitive answer when you stop being a "beginner" and reach intermediate territory, but I'd say probably 1300 is when someone is definitely no longer a beginner.
How Much Does ELO Tie Into Whether Or Not Someone Is A "Beginner"
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And that's not even taking to account real, OTB ratings. OTB is a different world much harsher than cushy online player pools.
ELO = Beginner Elo = Non beginner
Aug 8, 2022
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AbbyTheButcher wrote:
I've been told by many higher ranked players that I play well and do play better than a "Beginner". However, In many of these posts people say that if you're under four digits then you're definitely still considered a beginner. I can't even hold 600, so I don't even know what I am at this point. I guess I'm to Chess what CM Punk is to MMA.
We all have games where we play above our level, and below our level. It is what we do on average that determines where we are at the moment. When I am at my best I can hang on with 2 000+ rated player. At my worst, I might be lost out in the opening against people around my level or much lower.
So people who play against you could say that you play very well for your level or very badly. The later is not really nice to say to someone, so in most cases, people will avoid saying it to you, unless you come across some troll that wishes to rile you up.
In any case, if you look objectively at your games, you will see that both you and your opponents play 1 move blunders and fall to simple tactics pretty regularly, which is an indication that the game was played by beginner players.
Someone calls it the beginner level, someone calls it lower rated, or novice, but in any case, it really doesn't matter.
What does matter is that nobody should be ashamed of the level of chess they play, and should aim to enjoy the game regardless of their level. Because without the enjoyment, there is no point in playing. Yesterday I played a higher rated player. I lost but the general feeling is positive still, and I would love if I would be able to play 1950 rated players in these long games more often, even if I would lose most of the time, because I enjoy learning about the game as well. For me that is part of the reason why I like playing.
Aug 8, 2022
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AbbyTheButcher wrote:
I've been told by many higher ranked players that I play well and do play better than a "Beginner". However, In many of these posts people say that if you're under four digits then you're definitely still considered a beginner. I can't even hold 600, so I don't even know what I am at this point. I guess I'm to Chess what CM Punk is to MMA.
Ratings are imaginary points that help you find good matches. They don't give you anything for having them, so don't treat them as self-worth points, because they really aren't. Ratings come and go. You peak and tilt, etc. While they can be used as an indication of progress, you lose them as easily as you gain them, so don't take them too seriously.
When other players tell you that you are stronger than your rating, it usually indicates that you have some sort of Achilles' heel. You're hanging pieces, you are making bad pawn structures, you're missing check patterns, etc. Analyze games, figure out why you lost, and do tactics based on those things.
Aug 8, 2022
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That's why sometimes I use the term "true beginner" because "beginner" can mean a lot of different things.
Even worse is something like "intermediate." If you ask players to define intermediate you'll get answers anywhere from 800 to 2400.
Aug 8, 2022
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I ment what i said in our game chat, our first daily game, you played much better then your rating. You get too hung up on having a certain rating and trying to get some sort of self worth from a chess rating. As if getting a 4 digit rating will unveil a certain level of respect in the forums. Like i said these are artificial ratings generated on a site to match you with players in a certain skill level. But you insist on playing most of your games agaisnt much higher rated people " you say i dont care its good for learning" but then you say your " sick of losing so much" thats why i said play most of your games against people at your level and once in a while you can play up in rating. Your going to get discouraged losing to people +200 to +1000 all the time. Forget the rating nonsense turn on zen mode and just have fun man. Play the position and not the rating. I gave you plenty of advice most of which you ignored. And its going to take a while to improve, your not going to become a 1300 in a couple weeks. Maybe in 18 months if you put in the work. Sorry to be so blunt but sugar coating things doesnt help anyone
I've been told by many higher ranked players that I play well and do play better than a "Beginner". However, In many of these posts people say that if you're under four digits then you're definitely still considered a beginner. I can't even hold 600, so I don't even know what I am at this point. I guess I'm to Chess what CM Punk is to MMA.