It seems like I'm not cut out for chess.

1. Playing bots is literally one of the worst ways to improve at chess. I've never met anyone who plays tons of bots, and can beat me in a game of chess.

2. Online rating might not be that credible, but it is credible enough that everyone who has been talking to you in this conversation could repeatedly destroy you at chess.

3. Why are you making questions about chess rating on a chess website sound like someone is asking you for your social security number. You probably don't even have a otb rating.

4. Proud President of ACCF? You are the only member pal. I'm sure you have all the time in the world to do a singular 1v1 match.

5. Puzzle Rating of 1? That's what happens when you play lots of bots.

@Milhastighet

1 - just because you didn't meet such people doesn't mean it's bad somehow. You can even skip bots and play against yourself - still better than Blitz/Rapid online pvp

2 - Hahaha how can I trust that your rating and that your play are real? It's online. No one can be trusted (c) FIDE President

3 - Stop stalking

4 - I have plenty of incoming requests, people trying to meet requirements but that's only visible side, there are millions of members actually in my Federation if we count those who don't play online pvp chess but play chess programs such as Chessmaster or play OTB casually without thinking about chess.com believe it or not, such people exist, not everyone should care about online pvp chess

5 - puzzle rating can't be trusted either

1. I beat myself, does that mean I'm good or bad? It's like that question of "if I punch myself and it hurts, does that mean I'm strong or weak?"

2. How could they not be real?

3. hello, I'm your other stalker.

4. I don't think your federation contains that many members.

5. How could it not be trustable?

1. False

2. True, but I'm still better than you

3. False

4. False, stop lying

5. True, but I'm still better than you

Have you ever had a chess coach pal?

I'm going to add two extra arguments against @basketstorm.

6. Why are almost all of your sources anonymous? It's always an anonymous survey, anonymous users, unnamed cheat detector, unnamed unnamed unnamed.

7. Chess calculators lack intuition, Neural nets lack calculation. Where's the humanity?

Also, @basketstorm, let's test your idea that bots are equal to humans, I play Wally 10 times you play Wally 10 times then unrated 60 minutes. If bots can be used to judge skill then whoever won the most against wally should win.

1. It all depends on win ratio. If your win ratio is not improving, you're not progressing.

2. EASILY. Because no one can be trusted. Why is it so hard to understand?

3. This is creepy, stop it.

4. Do you know how many people that are not registered on chess.com still have a Chessmaster game (well known for it's human-like and very customizable engine) copy and run it occasionally? You think it's a small number? For some reason you have assumed that everyone cares about online pvp and must register on chess.com. Go outside sometimes, talk to real people.

5. See #2

1. WHATS THE WIN RATIO IF I BEAT MYSELF 10 TIMES? 100%? 0%? 50%? Is there any difference if I beat myself 11 times?

2. Not everyone's a cheater.

3. No.

4. No, I'm not going outside to talk to real people. Real people might insult me or have good arguments against my claims, I say that to end bullying we should all stop talking to real people and instead only talk to chatbots, they're very human-like and serve as a good replacement (sarcasm)

5. See #2

Let's test it, dear random chess player, sure. By writing 1 post you're not testing anything. I'm urging you to actually try this before making any conclusions. It's not about me or you or our skill difference. Why are you so focused on proving that you are a better player?

Speaking about Wally, it's a chess.com bot. They are not reliable. I mean look at a move he played in my recent game against him (Rxd8, his rook takes my knight):

What is this? He doesn't know that rook is more valuable than my knight?

No, the answer is: chess.com bots run using resources of your PC or smartphone. Bots don't run on server! Chess.com forces your browser to download a lengthy komodo wasm file (basically an engine executable wrapped in such way that browser can run it). Then if your PC or smartphone is weak OR there's some background process that draws computing resources, a bot can suddenly play a weak move. Many users have noticed this.

That's why I rarely play chess.com bots and never take them seriously.

But even if bots were perfect here, you can't offer someone to measure your skills via playing with bots. Why? Because there's no way to prove you didn't take hints.

Fine, what about 10 games against Maia

You said this bot is human-like

It plays like martin-bot, this isn't human-like.

1. Look, dear chess enthusiast. Many great chess players have employed this technique (self-play) as part of their chess skill development. Capablanca, Carlsen, Karpov, Fischer. Fischer actually started his chess journey from self-play. There are many reasons why this works best. Your time is precious, you should always ask yourself "am I just wasting time now? what am I trying to achieve". By playing blitz or rapid or, God forbid, bullet, you're wasting your time undoubtedly. Speed chess is a kind of fun that is accessible and forgivable to advanced players, but not to advancing players like you. Somebody here asked me about chess coach. Now any sane chess coach would advise avoiding speed chess. Because you need to learn to think fully and slowly before you can start thinking faster and getting intuition to work.

2. Try looking at this problem differently: everyone is a potential cheater. Everyone means 100%. Potentially

3. If you won't stop, that's even more creepy.

4. This is a serious issue, no time for jokes

To settle this argument, please beat a 2000+ rated bot unassisted @basketstorm

This time Maia played better but it played less like a human

There's no way to prove that someone has defeated a bot without assistance and no way to know how much tries it took. Plus bots are unreliable here I have already explained why. Plus, there is no argument, where do you see argument?

RandomChessPlayer62, Maia is an AI bot trained on lichess games. Your assessment of it as human like or not human like is subjective. While their (Maia authors) research paper has some actual numbers on how it matches human play.

Anyways, that's a weak bot and you will not learn too much by playing against it.

If you're still making tactical errors... play a longer time format. If you have to play daily games then do so. Speed comes in time. At one point I was 1900 in rapid but only 1200 in blitz. Since then my rapid rating has stayed mostly constant, but my blitz rating has increased 500 points to like 1700ish. This is something that just improved gradually over time as I kept playing. Train yourself to take alot of time on every move. Look at everything on the board.

Make sure you know the first couple moves of the openings... so that you can play your openings consistently. This allows you to play games with consistent plans / tactics, and will help you improve in both aspects.

Bots can be useful for practicing specific opening lines, since you can setup the position you want to play... and the bots on this site are well balanced for specific elo ranges. However, I don't think there's any bot that matches playing another human.