Taking vacations is not against the rules - I think I should learn to use it like the other abusers.
Really, all of this is very simple - Chess.com should end this nonsense by taking vacation off.
Players come here to enjoy the site and to be able to take a break from it when required, as you would want to be able to with many other aspects of your life. I'm sure vacation is used responsibly by the vast majority, and should be here to stay.
The vacation issue has been brought up in other threads and Erik had an open thread going about it. He was taking ideas about how to solve the abuse of it.
One issue which was brought up in that thread was a family emergecy or any other
type. If you have an unplanned departure then you may very well need the vacation time.
I can understand that but to me if you start a 3 day or 6 day or whatever day game and you can't finish it then you lose. If you can't make the move
then why make your opponent wait because of a complication in your life. I find
that rude.
I for one would have no problem ditching the vacation time but if they are going to
keep it like they say then they should ban it from tournaments and if you go on
vacation for one game it is effective for all of them.
I would also like to see it where before you start a game you could have the option to
enable or disable the vacation time. then you know from the start if it is even
allowed for that game.
Vacation of over a month ???????
Doesn't your gut tell you that something is not right ?
I don't see Kramnik playing Anand, suddenly stands up and say "I'm going on vacation", - does anyone ? But I must say I love to see Kramnik stand up and say "I'm going on vacation!"
Vacation of over a month ???????
Doesn't your gut tell you that something is not right ?
I don't see Kramnik playing Anand, suddenly stands up and say "I'm going on vacation", - does anyone ? But I must say I love to see Kramnik stand up and say "I'm going on vacation!"
What an absurd analogy!
I don't have the slightest problem with people taking vacation here. Since I can have any number of games going at the same time what does it matter if one or even a couple of them are continuing at a later point? That doesn't change the strategic brain tickling of a match at all - at least for me.
It would be a viable solution though to have the option to disallow vacation upon game/tournament creation. That way everybody could have their cup of tea.
I have just had an opponent go on vacation when it was his move. I thought that the site didn't permit this.
That's true, you canot go on vaction if it is your move. A friend of mine died, and when I found out I wanted to go off line, but I couldn't until I'd made all moves in my games.
Vacation of over a month ???????
Doesn't your gut tell you that something is not right ?
I don't see Kramnik playing Anand, suddenly stands up and say "I'm going on vacation", - does anyone ? But I must say I love to see Kramnik stand up and say "I'm going on vacation!"
What an absurd analogy!
Alright....Abbot and Costello, then
The vacation issue has been brought up in other threads and Erik had an open thread going about it. He was taking ideas about how to solve the abuse of it.
One issue which was brought up in that thread was a family emergecy or any other
type.
I find the fact that anyone who has a family emergency but hangs around to their turn so that they can switch on vacation so as to preserve their games, bizzare. I will never understand but I guess each to his own.
we will NOT get rid of vacation :) we MIGHT do more to prevent people from abusing by adjudicating more games and adding penalties to abusers. but people - this is correspondence chess - it takes a long time. i'll be going on vacation next week when my next child is born.
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we will NOT get rid of vacation :) we MIGHT do more to prevent people from abusing by adjudicating more games and adding penalties to abusers. but people - this is correspondence chess - it takes a long time. i'll be going on vacation next week when my next child is born.
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WOW Erik!! When do you find time?! 
One thing I have learned over time: Ignorance cannot be governed, and trying is futile. Some say it is not fair to have to wait to finish a game, but is it also not fair to have one's rating punished because you wanted to take a few days off?
There will always be those who seek to take advantage of every bit they are given but may I remind everyone: Being away will not change the position on the board. If one is behind, in a month they will still be behind, only now their vacation time is done. Is it annoying? Of course, but is it that difficult to wait?
Perhaps my perspective is way off, but it's only chess. I love to play and I love to win but when it comes right down to it, it's only chess . . .
Patzer24 I think you have a great idea. I would love to see something like that available on chess.com
That would be a tough rule to follow for Kacparov. If you play 1000+ games simultaneously like he does then good luck with that. Also, consider vacation from chess like vacation from work. Even if your job package is not completed then you still may go on vacation (exceptions not withstanding).
I don't have the slightest problem with people taking vacation here. Since I can have any number of games going at the same time what does it matter if one or even a couple of them are continuing at a later point? That doesn't change the strategic brain tickling of a match at all - at least for me.
It would be a viable solution though to have the option to disallow vacation upon game/tournament creation. That way everybody could have their cup of tea.
Well, there are "no vacation" tournaments.
Some ideas on how to stop vacation abuse :
1) When the player wants to go on vacation, it applies to all his games. Previously I played one guy who selectively applied vacation to his games. At another time, I played one guy who when he went on vacation, he vacationed all his games.
2) Cut down the length of the vacation. A player becomes entitled to more vacation time if he plays more games.
3) If the player wants to go on vacation, he needs to get approval from the other player. If a player gives approval to another to go on vacation, then the giver must have the patience to wait for the vacation to be over. If vacation goer doesn't get the approval, he can still go on vacation but he is considered to have lost the game. So if it is a ploy to wait out the player who is leading, it's pointless. If he comes back from vacation and wins the game, so be it. If he loses, he has already lost.
1. There is no such thing as selective vacation. When you go on vacation you are on vacation in all the games where it is your move. In the other games the vacation note pops up when the opponent makes its move.
2. That's essentially the case already but I guess one could cut it back further. Whether an increased number of games that time out is desirable is a different question.
3. That's nonsense. If I need to go on vacation for whatever reason I will. If I don't have any vac time left then I lose my games fine. If I do I will use it to take care of whatever is needed or to simply take a mental break. Imagine how skewed tournaments are going to be if the already high rate of timeouts increases further.
I prefer to play a 30 minute game against the clock. Now l have a plethora of Vacations - games I've never participated in - on my home display. I should not be penalised for not wanting to play games that go on for days. If l want to play a game lasting one hour and against the clock in one session that should be between my opponent and myself. So will Chess.com which l love let people be. If two people are playing long games and one is abusing the time then that is cheating. I am here to play checkmate on the biggest platform in the world. But games that go on for days are not my type.of game.
Taking vacations is not against the rules - I think I should learn to use it like the other abusers.
Really, all of this is very simple - Chess.com should end this nonsense by taking vacation off.