Let’s talk about beginner’s progression

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igaytwanb

I’m a (nearly) brand new ADULT player. Been playing for about 4 months seriously now, but have known how to https://xender.vip/ play and very basic tactics/strategy for about 5 years now.

My chess.com ranking hovers around 900 (up from about 500 when I started).

One issue I continuously run into is trying to find videos for sub 1,000 players. Generally they’re geared towards very young kids, and only talk about the very basics like how pieces move.

Most the players I’m against know theory about 3-5 moves deep at rank 900... no matter what I open with. It seems most chess lessons are divided into two categories.... those below 1800 (which are patronizingly basic) and those above.

What’s with the discrepancy?

Does anyone have any resources on how to improve?

I know how the pieces move, but I’m not ready for GM level strategy lessons. It seems there’s no inbetween.

Does anyone else who was in my position have advice?

blunderbus67

Check out John Bartholomew's ratings climb, he does them in increments and his commentary is very good , look at 800-1000,1000-1200 and 1200 to 1400. All will help in my view 👍

blunderbus67

There's no difference between us I'd say, I'm only a little higher, my ratings get punished as half the time I play whilst multitasking.

tygxc

@1

"My chess.com ranking hovers around 900"
++ The best you can do is always check your intended move is no blunder before you play it.
Hang no pieces, hang no pawns. When your opponent hangs a piece or a pawn, grab it.

"One issue I continuously run into is trying to find videos for sub 1,000 players."
++ A book holds 200 hours ot training, equivalent to 200 videos of 1 h each.

"Most the players I’m against know theory about 3-5 moves deep at rank 900"
++ Do not worry about openings, just develop your pieces into play and aim for the center.

"Does anyone have any resources on how to improve?
++ Chess Fundamentals Capablanca contains all you need to know.

Kraig
blunderbus67 wrote:

Check out John Bartholomew's ratings climb, he does them in increments and his commentary is very good , look at 800-1000,1000-1200 and 1200 to 1400. All will help in my view 👍


I second this - this was one of the best resources around when I was "climbing the rating ladder" myself a few years ago.

Since then, there have been a few youtube channels that specifically focus on upskilling those in the 1000 rating range (+/- a few hundred points on either side).
@BenHunt72 has a channel. Check out his profile - his youtube channel is linked in his About Me section. @chessgoalsyoutube is another example.

CherryMyMuffins

You have not mentioned about doing puzzles/tactics, so maybe that's a good place to train on now? Pattern recognition is very important to make the next jump, no matter how much you know about chess, you need to practice more on tactics to be able to see them in games.

tygxc

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"You have not mentioned about doing puzzles/tactics"
++ 'Chess is 99% tactics' - Teichmann
However, tactics puzzles are not chess, like penalty kicks are not soccer.
Solving 4 tactics puzzles is a good warm-up.
In a real game nobody tells you there is a tactic, or for which side.
The best way to get better at tactics is to analyse your lost games.

CherryMyMuffins
tygxc wrote:

@6
"You have not mentioned about doing puzzles/tactics"
++ 'Chess is 99% tactics' - Teichmann
However, tactics puzzles are not chess, like penalty kicks are not soccer.
Solving 4 tactics puzzles is a good warm-up.
In a real game nobody tells you there is a tactic, or for which side.
The best way to get better at tactics is to analyse your lost games.

It's not just about missed tactical ideas. Doing tactics consistently improves your calculation speed/quality and visualization of the position, if he has not done it yet it will definitely help him a lot at this level. 

magipi

What is the point of creating a new account just for this post? Is this some weird form of trolling?

You are rated 900, and videos for under-1800 players are "patronizingly basic"? What?

GaborHorvath

What you need the most at that level is not passive but active learning - i.e. doing drills instead of just receiving information. You should solve tactical puzzles, play games through on a real board, play slow games, solve endgame puzzles, mates in 2, etc. 

One good source for training material is "Chess: 5334 Problems, Combinations, and Games" from Laszlo Polgar, but any similar book should be fine. Anything that makes you work instead of watching/listening. 

 

RussBell

Improving Your Chess - Resources for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/improving-your-chess-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell

TheCleverApe

Well... First at all. You are Novice/intermediate. That means that You do not have to start learning so much theory.. And ofc You don't have to play attention abou what line the other playera used to play. At this.level let yourself play with intuitive and relaxed moves. For that You have to understand the board visión. That would be well. How? Try to understand chess coordenates and also try to visualize every piece in it's own location.

XxThe_DestroyerxX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKPblzCkYn4&t=0s

I have created that video, it is some nice positional content for both higher and lower rated players. Don't get irritated by that high voice, my rating is above 2000

PsychoPanda13
blunderbus67 wrote:

Check out John Bartholomew's ratings climb, he does them in increments and his commentary is very good , look at 800-1000,1000-1200 and 1200 to 1400. All will help in my view 👍

This is my favourite resource too.

There is also Daniel Naroditsky's rating climb and the Chessbrah chess habits series

laurengoodkindchess

Hi! My name is Lauren Goodkind and I’m a respected  chess coach and chess YouTuber who helps beginners out : 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP5SPSG_sWSYPjqJYMNwL_Q

 

Send me one of your games and I'll be happy to analyze the game for free on my YouTube channel on Sunday livestream from 1-2PM PST.  Ask me questions in real time!  

 

 This is a great way to improve!

 

 

Hoffmann713

About puzzles.

As a beginner ( I thought I was worth something more, but I was wrong ), I’m getting to be of the opinion that the importance of solving puzzles is a little overstimated…

In less than a month my puzzles rating has risen from 800 to 2213 ( my best ), but my rapid rating got stuck around 950. After hundreds and hundreds of puzzles ( a thousand, probably ) I don’t see any benefit: the reality is that in a game I don’t recognize any pattern !... My impression is that puzzles-solving just improves…puzzles-solving skill. 

For now, I’ll try to follow the advice of tygxc : just revision of lost games; puzzles just for fun.

Let's make this attempt.

 

dokerbohm

wish i had a 800 rating after 4months - 

1g1yy
Hoffmann713 wrote:

About puzzles.

As a beginner ( I thought I was worth something more, but I was wrong ), I’m getting to be of the opinion that the importance of solving puzzles is a little overstimated…

In less than a month my puzzles rating has risen from 800 to 2213 ( my best ), but my rapid rating got stuck around 950. After hundreds and hundreds of puzzles ( a thousand, probably ) I don’t see any benefit: the reality is that in a game I don’t recognize any pattern !... My impression is that puzzles-solving just improves…puzzles-solving skill. 

For now, I’ll try to follow the advice of tygxc : just revision of lost games; puzzles just for fun.

Let's make this attempt.

Take "X" as a number of skills required to play chess.  X might be 10, 50, 100, whatever number.  To improve, you want those skills to all improve steadily.  You can't work on one thing to the exclusion of the others.  If you've worked on puzzles, that's great.  But, now that you're happy with them, you need to improve the other 9, 49, 99 skills to at least a decent level.

You might be the best puzzle solver/tactical player on the planet. But if you consistently hang queens and kings for free, no amount of tactics is going to make up for it.  You have to work on everything. 

The trick is to figure out what you need to work on next.