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bitblocksplicer


Hello,

I've played more than 10 games against Nelson bot. No matter what I do, it is not possible for me to beat him. I really don't know what should I do and what I do wrong. Can you guys show a way to beat him? Thanks in advance.

Note: I beat all previous bots except him. 

GeorgeWyhv14

Stop wasting time beating lower rated bots. Beat higher rated ones.

bitblocksplicer

I can't even beat this bot (1300 rated), how possible to beat higher ones?

Marcyful

 

Here's an example game of me beating Nelson. Read the annotations to understand my thought process behind my moves and get the ideas you need to finally beat Nelson.

 

CtC821

 

thegamingmaster711

If you want to beat Nelson, you have to learn how to deal with early queen attacks. Nelson always brings his queen out early, so all you have to do is develop your pieces like you would in any other opening. Then you should try to take the queens off the board, then once that happens you already have a lead in development. After that, make sure you don't make any blunders in the middle game. Don't hang pieces and one to two move tactics. By the endgame he already would have made a mistake by now, and you should be able to convert an endgame easily. If he has not blundered and you are not sure how to convert an endgame, then go watch some video's on endgames.

Now let's say you have a completely winning position by the end, DON'T STALEMATE! Ok, 👍 

Also another thing is that you have unlimited time, think about every move.

Good luck 

bitblocksplicer

Guys I really, really thank you for the advices and example games. I'll try harder. Love you all!

Marcyful
bitblocksplicer wrote:

Guys I really, really thank you for the advices and example games. I'll try harder. Love you all!

Don't mention it. Now go beat that early queen attack spammer.

bitblocksplicer
Marcyful yazdı:
bitblocksplicer wrote:

Guys I really, really thank you for the advices and example games. I'll try harder. Love you all!

Don't mention it. Now go beat that early queen attack spammer.

 



Finally, I DID IT!! Thanks again 🙇‍♂️

thegamingmaster711

Great job!

Marcyful

Good work comrade. You hung a few pawns and pieces and missed some good tactics but you got the job done. 

dk3champ

Yeah, Nelson probably should be rated 1500 or so.  He's definitely the hardest 1300 bot they have.

Marcyful
dk3champ wrote:

Yeah, Nelson probably should be rated 1500 or so.  He's definitely the hardest 1300 bot they have.

I wouldn't say that for 3 reasons:
1.) A real 1500 would never play the unnecessary early queen move even if you offer them a few bonus points if they win with it.
2.) He absolutely stinks at endgames. Can't even take pawns when they are completely free.
3.) 90% of the time he is willing to trade queens if you offer him the exchange. Which is an absolutely horrible decision when you spend most of your opening tempi on queen moves.

Marcyful

I wouldn't even say he deserves to be 1300 honestly.

Chrismoonster

I've beaten Nelson, to describe me as an intermediate would be generous. 

thegamingmaster711
Marcyful wrote:

I wouldn't even say he deserves to be 1300 honestly.

Agreed, before I knew how to deal with early queen attacks, I got destroyed by Nelson. However now, I could beat Nelson blindfolded. 

(Not literally, but you know what I mean)

jonnin

Nelson is one of the best practice bots.  He does something common in low level games, and he does it well enough to keep you on your toes. 

He is really easy to beat once you figure out what to do (basic ideas are: trade queens or make him waste moves or capture his other pieces).  

He is also a good study in basic opening theory.  His attacks are against weakness that you created in your opening or that just naturally exists on the starting board, why development is useful, etc. 

Caffeineed
I hate Nelson.
Emily_1609

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY9zitJFglc 

This video can help you. It is about stopping early queen attacks

If it doesn't help, just trade queens early and don't stalemate.

I did beat Nelson a long time ago, eventhough I am rated 400-600 and Nelson is 1300. The video

helped a lot. 

korotky_trinity

Yeah... Admiral Nelson is great.