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I don't know what all the openings are called, so bear with me.


I like to do queen's pawn opening, which works really well if I am playing as white. But I have found that if I am playing as black, and white does the common D4 opening, they will take my pawn, I retaliate with my queen, and then they retaliate by moving their horse to threaten my queen, putting me on the defensive.

Black is already 1 step behind white, and putting me on the defensive this early in the game just increases my disadvantage. Now I've lost another turn from having to move my queen to safety, allowing white to develop while I struggle to catch up.

Is it even possible to play queen's pawn opening as black if white plays king's pawn opening? Is there a trick that I'm not seeing? Or should I abandon the idea of  playing queen's pawn opening as black if I see my opponent open with D4, and instead play something else in response?

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The opening you’re referring to is called the Scandinavian Defense and it’s a fine opening, but the reason on why I don’t like it much is because the queen comes out early and the other lines with 2. Nf6 which is going to lead to you either bringing the queen out anyways(if I’m wrong about this then tell me because I’m not a Scandinavian player) and 2. c6 which is a gambit of a pawn and in the long run just a free pawn for white and for white just developing is fine and white should not going for any greedy moves. Against 1. e4 the French is good and Caro-cann is also fine, but I prefer the French more. What I really recommend for you that is not about about openings much is studying the middlegame and endgame more than the opening because most games are decided by the middlegame and endgame most of the time except opening traps. All games start on the opening so I will start with that so opening principles is best and then middlegame and then you should focus on not blundering by asking yourself every, every, every move on what is my opponent doing? And what will my opponent do if I play this? And if they will take a free piece next move think about retreating or just defending and keeping mind of piece values is good too and then next should be endgame principles. After you stop blundering it is almost 400 immediately.
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Now read it. I’m trying my best to help you here and make sure to implement it and keep it in mind. Ok?
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Thank you for telling me what it is. I'm watching Gothamchess's video about the scandinavian defense and he says to move the queen to the side of the board.

I suppose that works but you're moving the queen twice, and doesn't that mean black loses tempo? You have both lost a pawn, and black just loses a turn. Isn't this bad? This just lets white develop faster than you.

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Oppenings name is not so important. Many spend too much time trying to know all those names.
What really matter is know what is better for you and how to react to them when played against you

Avatar of Doomed_Noob

The Kloosterboer gambit is exactly what I was looking for. Baiting white to gobble up your pawns lets black develop their back-rank pieces faster than white. White uses a turn to eat a pawn, but you use your turns developing back-rank pieces, which leads to faster development than white, and even better - if white develops their D pawn next you can target their C2 pawn with a bishop and knight, and they won't be able to block the bishop with their D or E pawns.

If black can take one of white's back-rank pieces with aggressive play and gain a material advantage, this gambit could be worth it.

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Good
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Chess Openings Resources for Beginners and Beyond…

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/openings-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

Avatar of Git_er_done

I won more with E5 as white....and E6 as black to white E5....... But good golly the games are so boring....... There is a reason they call the Italian game the "quiet game"... And it's always that or Ruy Lopez.... Those are very mild games that are not exciting and lead to a locked middle game where you have to break it open somehow.... Other openings like Queens Gambit and Sicilian defense lead to much more rapid development and interesting attacks.

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Go here to this link and check the table of contents to see if you can see something you want there.

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/chess-tips-and-annotated-games?page=1#comment-118650434
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So none of this helped at all. Nobody ever takes the Kloosterboer gambit and playing scandinavian defense feels like I'm deliberately gimping my own game. Moving your queen early blunders the queen and moving it twice as part of your opening just helps your opponent develop their pieces faster.

How did anyone ever think this opening was a good idea? Scandinavians must be stupid.

Avatar of ChessNerdyBrain

I have an idea for a gambit: STURM GAMBIT!! I found this out when doing random moves and is actually... great!

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Every opening has it’s downsides and upsides. For the Scandinavian it has the obvious downside of bringing the queen out, but it’s upside is it’s easy to play and I could name more like is a good start for beginners. It’s downsides is that it brings the queen out and that the positions can get pretty stale so the player has to agree with the downsides and upside and then they can play it and if they can’t agree then don’t. I’ll name downsides and upsides for other openings. Italian: downsides: it’s hard to play the more you dive into it, many players have prep against it, and that black can get counter play if white isn’t careful. Upsides: helps beginners with understanding opening concepts, gives different positions to beginners so that’s why I they can practice not just one position unlike the London, and can be a good start to beginners. The downsides and upsides about the Italian kinda balance out here, but if you don’t like them, then don’t play the opening.
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#13, I slipped and played Ke2, no joke. Hahaahahhahahahhahha!
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Another example thx to #13. Downsides: sacrifices a pawn, you should know how to attack against an undeveloped and uncastled king and learn to be patient with your play which just means it’s hard to play for many beginners and intermediate and half of advanced, weakens your king, and the attack is unsound. Upsides tho seem pretty good. Gives you an amazing attack with a rook lift and your opponent can’t really avoid it and that you can learn alot from it’s midgames which seems pretty good.
Avatar of ChessNerdyBrain

I love to have Tactical Madness... So I choose openings which have funky tactics. For example Bird's Opening, Bishop's Opening, King's Pawn Opening, Vienna Gambit, King's Gambit, Italian Game, and Sturm Gambit. I know what e4 is and not what d4 is. I only have two openings as black: Albin Countergambit and King's Pawn Game. Probably I'll add some in the near future.

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If you like it then play it. 👍
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Here's a very interesting Scandinavian line

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