Puzzle Rush Survivor and Normal Puzzle Rating Discussion

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HelpNeedsHelp

Well, hello there ! I'm looking for some feedback about normal Puzzles and Puzzle Rush Survivor.

I've seen really strong players do puzzles in the 70-100+ range and I was wondering how far you have to get in "normal puzzle rating" to start seeing these because they look a lot more practical for learning tactics.

I'm unlikely to ever get there in Puzzle Survivor Rush because I eventually miss simple things due to attention. I'm making a thread about this because puzzle rating is very different from bullet/blitz/rapid rating. Puzzle rating inflates a lot and seeing someone with 3000+ puzzle rating while impressive doesn't necessarily translate into players playing at 3000 rating in normal games. So, I was hoping to figure out what's the relative puzzle rating for a player in a certain skill range. In order to do so, I've been interested to figure out in what puzzle rating bracket are the puzzles from Puzzle Rush Survivor.

Basically I'm looking for a chart that says something along the lines of

level 1-10 bracket [100~800] rating

level 11-20 bracket [800~1200] rating

level 21-30 bracket [1200~1800] rating

level 31-40 [1800~2300] rating etc.

I'm also curious about how far people got in puzzle rating and if they got "stuck" at one point regardless of their rating in normal games. I figure it might help demystify what's going on with puzzles. I do know puzzles have a upper "endgame" because it seems like some players can stack 10000+ puzzle rating. I wonder if these players could get far in Puzzle Rush Survivor or if there's more to it.

tldr;  I'm mostly curious about if anyone knows more in depth how puzzles work in general in terms of ranking, complexity and how difficult it gets in both modes.

I'm not really talking about 3min and 5min Survivor because they are mostly just speed benchmarks.

eric0022
HelpNeedsHelp wrote:

Well, hello there ! I'm looking for some feedback about normal Puzzles and Puzzle Rush Survivor.

I've seen really strong players do puzzles in the 70-100+ range and I was wondering how far you have to get in "normal puzzle rating" to start seeing these because they look a lot more practical for learning tactics.

I'm unlikely to ever get there in Puzzle Survivor Rush because I eventually miss simple things due to attention. I'm making a thread about this because puzzle rating is very different from bullet/blitz/rapid rating. Puzzle rating inflates a lot and seeing someone with 3000+ puzzle rating while impressive doesn't necessarily translate into players playing at 3000 rating in normal games. So, I was hoping to figure out what's the relative puzzle rating for a player in a certain skill range. In order to do so, I've been interested to figure out in what puzzle rating bracket are the puzzles from Puzzle Rush Survivor.

Basically I'm looking for a chart that says something along the lines of

level 1-10 bracket [100~800] rating

level 11-20 bracket [800~1200] rating

level 21-30 bracket [1200~1800] rating

level 31-40 [1800~2300] rating etc.

I'm also curious about how far people got in puzzle rating and if they got "stuck" at one point regardless of their rating in normal games. I figure it might help demystify what's going on with puzzles. I do know puzzles have a upper "endgame" because it seems like some players can stack 10000+ puzzle rating. I wonder if these players could get far in Puzzle Rush Survivor or if there's more to it.

tldr;  I'm mostly curious about if anyone knows more in depth how puzzles work in general in terms of ranking, complexity and how difficult it gets in both modes.

I'm not really talking about 3min and 5min Survivor because they are mostly just speed benchmarks.

 

By the time you hit puzzle #45 in unlimited time Puzzle Rush, you can expect puzzle ratings of close to 2500.

 

I think puzzle #30 is good for a 1700 difficulty.

eric0022
HelpNeedsHelp wrote:

Well, hello there ! I'm looking for some feedback about normal Puzzles and Puzzle Rush Survivor.

I've seen really strong players do puzzles in the 70-100+ range and I was wondering how far you have to get in "normal puzzle rating" to start seeing these because they look a lot more practical for learning tactics.

I'm unlikely to ever get there in Puzzle Survivor Rush because I eventually miss simple things due to attention. I'm making a thread about this because puzzle rating is very different from bullet/blitz/rapid rating. Puzzle rating inflates a lot and seeing someone with 3000+ puzzle rating while impressive doesn't necessarily translate into players playing at 3000 rating in normal games. So, I was hoping to figure out what's the relative puzzle rating for a player in a certain skill range. In order to do so, I've been interested to figure out in what puzzle rating bracket are the puzzles from Puzzle Rush Survivor.

Basically I'm looking for a chart that says something along the lines of

level 1-10 bracket [100~800] rating

level 11-20 bracket [800~1200] rating

level 21-30 bracket [1200~1800] rating

level 31-40 [1800~2300] rating etc.

I'm also curious about how far people got in puzzle rating and if they got "stuck" at one point regardless of their rating in normal games. I figure it might help demystify what's going on with puzzles. I do know puzzles have a upper "endgame" because it seems like some players can stack 10000+ puzzle rating. I wonder if these players could get far in Puzzle Rush Survivor or if there's more to it.

tldr;  I'm mostly curious about if anyone knows more in depth how puzzles work in general in terms of ranking, complexity and how difficult it gets in both modes.

I'm not really talking about 3min and 5min Survivor because they are mostly just speed benchmarks.

 

You can take some of my runs beyond 30 moves for example to see the relative difficulty of puzzles at each stage. I give you three such recent runs which I have attempted.

 

https://www.chess.com/puzzles/rush/eric0022/3QRt3g

 

https://www.chess.com/puzzles/rush/eric0022/5zUzJJ

 

https://www.chess.com/puzzles/rush/eric0022/6Wcjbt

HelpNeedsHelp

These are pretty good puzzles thank you ! They're definitely outside my comfort zone. happy.png

I just wish we had like Puzzle Rush Survivor, but you start at the 10th or 20th puzzle in difficulty instead of all the way back up to lowest rating.