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playing against people for a while. I lost 68 ELO points over the last 12 hours and I'm just completely discouraged. I was creeping up on 900 and now I got knocked back by people who are clearly better than their ratings indicate. I figure I'll just watch YouTube videos and read about openings and defenses for a few weeks/months. But I'm definitely not feeling like I want to play anyone again anytime soon. I feel like an absolute moron. Anyway, I hope Chess treats y'all better than it has me. Good luck. 

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Omg, you cant just give up like dat!!!!!You need to work on it, and take better tips. I've been playing for a year and just look at my rating. U suld play chess because its fun not because u don win

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The_Devil123 wrote:

Omg, you cant just give up like dat!!!!!You need to work on it, and take better tips. I've been playing for a year and just look at my rating. U suld play chess because its fun not because u don win

It's not fun when you're getting your a** kicked consistently and seemingly not learning anything from it. 🤷

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You aren’t going to go on a consistently increasing curve, it’s normal to have a lull for periods. 68 points can be recovered in a few games, this is not a reason to pause playing, it’s a reason to keep playing and break through to the next level in time. Bad games happen, I’ve had several bad games myself recently but you have to work through it and find the lessons from those games, there is always a lesson to be had. Work with your coach to figure out how to weed out the mistakes and give yourself time and permission to learn and make mistakes while doing so. It’s not a race. 

-Jordan

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You cry about this every day. 

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It's absolutely hilarious. I can't help but chuckle whenever I read your posts. 

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I don't know what's up with you, man. 

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ShrekChess69420 wrote:

I don't know what's up with you, man. 

Well I was doing pretty well until last night and then got knocked back pretty hard. It's easy to become discouraged under those circumstances I believe. I think it's easy for you to say something like that when you have mastered the fundamentals and can hold your own in the game whereas I still struggle with opening principles. 

 

Truth be told I struggle to understand why you frequent this board anyway if your goal is to disparage people who may just need to vent. Your obviously not a beginner so what is your purpose being on this board? 

I've also got some things going on in my personal life that I won't delve into here but I'm sure they're affecting my play. Chess was my escape from issues such as depression and anxiety but it becomes a source of it after my last 20 games. 

Anyway, flame away if you must. I'm just shouting into the void. You don't need to respond at all if you're not liking what I'm putting out. But as I said, it's easy for you to sit back and laugh at people who are trying to understand what they're doing wrong when you could review the games and point it out without having to think about it. 🤔

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My advice? Take a break--but not from chess. Watch some videos and play over some great master games. Go to chessgames.com and look for the great games from the 1800s or before and just enjoy watching the old masters go at it. Pull out a chess book or two and pretend to read it. Watch "The Queen's Gambit" on Netflix. Watch some of Eric Rosen's videos. He's so relaxing and interesting; he's like the Bob Ross of chess. There's no reason to let this game get you down. It should lift you up and make your day better. Heck, if you never played another game in your life, there are a thousand and one other things to enjoy about chess. Lighten up and get some happy going.

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BigFoxy90 wrote:
ShrekChess69420 wrote:

I don't know what's up with you, man. 

Well I was doing pretty well until last night and then got knocked back pretty hard. It's easy to become discouraged under those circumstances I believe. I think it's easy for you to say something like that when you have mastered the fundamentals and can hold your own in the game whereas I still struggle with opening principles. 

 

Truth be told I struggle to understand why you frequent this board anyway if your goal is to disparage people who may just need to vent. Your obviously not a beginner so what is your purpose being on this board? 

I've also got some things going on in my personal life that I won't delve into here but I'm sure they're affecting my play. Chess was my escape from issues such as depression and anxiety but it becomes a source of it after my last 20 games. 

Anyway, flame away if you must. I'm just shouting into the void. You don't need to respond at all if you're not liking what I'm putting out. But as I said, it's easy for you to sit back and laugh at people who are trying to understand what they're doing wrong when you could review the games and point it out without having to think about it. 🤔

I have helped you out in the past. But learning chess is not easy. My point is that it's silly to sulk around after a bad day. You've got your whole chess career in front of you. 

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Obese_Octopus wrote:

68 is nothing lmao

It's actually almost 100 now. And yea, in my opinion,  that's pretty bad. 

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I took 3-4 months off and just did some chessable books, played some blitz didnt care if i lost. It actually helped alot not playing and just drilling books and puzzles.

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Yeah that’s completely normal. Even top GM’s wont be able to avoid downswings such as this. It’s understandably discouraging, but no need to take an extensive break. Just play by a system that doesn’t allow for tilt to take over. I find a good strategy is to stop the playing session if ever lose 3 games in a row. Take a break and come back later. Usually after 3 losses, you’ll only continue to play poorly. If you can avoid that and only play when you are mentally fresh, it will much more enjoyable.

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Obese_Octopus wrote:

68 is nothing lmao

Just leave him alone at this point. He doesn't even know what he's getting into. happy.png 

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Hey @BigFoxy90, sorry that you're discouraged, but... you don't have to be. I'm sorry to break the news to you, but chess is a hard game to learn that will take much patience. You seem to be rushing everything expecting to get somewhere by studying and playing nonstop. I propose this idea: only play a few games a day. 

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68 rating points isn't a lot to lose. I would say just play less. Also remember chess is just for fun. For me I only play a few blitz games and then a rapid game a day, sometimes not everyday. This ensures 0 tilt and I always have fun happy.png. Also remember to do daily puzzle and puzzles/puzzle rush.

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I would say: If you want to go: go! People come and people go.

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archaja wrote:

I would say: If you want to go: go! People come and people go.

Ich mach nur ne Pause von dem Spiel. Bin grade einfach höchst frustriert. So viele Spiele nacheindander zu verlieren ist wirklich entmutigend. Und so weiter zu spielen könnte sich als nachteilhaftig erweisen. In dieser Phase wäre es vielleicht besser keine weiteren Gegner zu spielen und einfach YT videos zu schauen und vielleicht Schachtheorie Bücher zu lesen. Egal ich bin grade "tilted" und so wird es mir nichts bringen weiter zu spielen. 

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Das hört sich aber anders an, als im Ersttext.... Wie wär´s mal, mit ner längeren Zeitkontrolle? Außerdem gehört Frust dazu. Ich mache praktisch seit drei Jahren jeden Tag Taktikaufgaben und da gibt es die verrücktesten Sprünge. Ich hab schon zehn-zwölf mal hintereinander die Lösung gefunden. Und die nächsten Tage geht --- gar nichts. In drei Tagen 200 Punkte runter. Klar ist das frustrierend. Muß jeder selber damit umgehen lernen. Mir machen die Videos und Lektionen hier Spaß. Da mach ich oft mehr als aktuell spielen. Mich hat nur dieses "mir stinkts, ich gehe" gestört, dass dann eigentlich doch nur darauf hofft, dass die anderen Sagen: nein, bleib, das lohnt sich doch.

Wenn Du mehr gewinnen willst, mußt Du mehr investieren:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/the-evergreen-question-from-beginners-how-can-i-get-better

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archaja wrote:

Das hört sich aber anders an, als im Ersttext.... Wie wär´s mal, mit ner längeren Zeitkontrolle? Außerdem gehört Frust dazu. Ich mache praktisch seit drei Jahren jeden Tag Taktikaufgaben und da gibt es die verrücktesten Sprünge. Ich hab schon zehn-zwölf mal hintereinander die Lösung gefunden. Und die nächsten Tage geht --- gar nichts. In drei Tagen 200 Punkte runter. Klar ist das frustrierend. Muß jeder selber damit umgehen lernen. Mir machen die Videos und Lektionen hier Spaß. Da mach ich oft mehr als aktuell spielen. Mich hat nur dieses "mir stinkts, ich gehe" gestört, dass dann eigentlich doch nur darauf hofft, dass die anderen Sagen: nein, bleib, das lohnt sich doch.

Wenn Du mehr gewinnen willst, mußt Du mehr investieren:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/the-evergreen-question-from-beginners-how-can-i-get-better

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Glaub mir es war nicht meine Absicht dass es so rüberkommt. Für mich hilft es wenn ich einfach darüber schreibe auch wenn keiner zuhört oder zurückschreibt. Das ist mir nicht wichtig. Es ist für mich einfach eine Art und Weise worauf ich diesen Frust rauslassen kann.

 

Vielleicht eine längere Zeitkontrolle wäre mir vorteilhaftig. Ich habe auch vor in nächsten Tagen Videos zu gucken und von den Lektionen bei chess.com zu lernen. Ich fange von ganz vorne an. Ich mache jetzt einfach Pause von Spielen gegen andere Menschen. Ich muss die Grundlagen wieder lernen bis sie bei mir im Hirn bleiben. ich habe wirklich nichts dagegen dass ich lernen muss einfach dass ich nach 3 Monaten anscheinend noch nicht genug gelernt habe. Und ich weiß ich soll nicht erwarten nach drei Monaten grandmaster zu werden oder sowas. Aber ich hätte gehofft bis zu diesem Punkt noch mehr zu lernen als das was ich schon gelernt habe. Was für mich einfach nicht ausreichend ist.

es tut mir leid wenn ich mich nicht momentan nicht so gut Ausdrücke ich habe seit langer Zeit kein Deutsch mehr gesprochen.