Stalesmate and draw

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genacgenac

For purposes of ratings and the like, is Stalemate equivalent to Draw?

tobyc3p0
What is stalemate
fiziwig

Yes. Stalemate is just a different kind of draw since your opponent has no legal move the game cannot continue.

laurengoodkindchess

Hi! My name is Lauren Goodkind and I’m a chess coach based and chess book author based in California: www.ChessByLauren.com

  Yes, I agree with fiziwig.  Stalemate is a draw and that means nobody wins.  In other words, a tie.  

genacgenac

My question is whether a draw and stalemate influence rating identically.  I believe Fiz explicated.  Thanks all.

l5aiah

Yes the rating is identical but the rating points you get for a draw or stalemate changes depending on the rating of your opponent

genacgenac

Those two statements appear at odds.  "Rating is identical", "Points you get... changes depending on...".  Kindly explicate.

Ilampozhil25

stalemate is equal to draw because it is a draw. points change depending on opponents rating,not stalemate/draw

genacgenac

The fact the points points change depending on opponents rating is orthogonal to my question, which relates strictly to the distinction, or lack thereof, between stalemate and draw.  Effect of rating change resulting from draw (stalemate) differs from that of win/loss strictly by magnitude.  Thanks again all.

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genacgenac wrote:

The fact the points points change depending on opponents rating is orthogonal to my question, which relates strictly to the distinction, or lack thereof, between stalemate and draw.  Effect of rating change resulting from draw (stalemate) differs from that of win/loss strictly by magnitude.  Thanks again all.

a stalemate is one type of draw. so yes, they are identical from a points perspective.

fiziwig

Keep in mind that a draw does not mean no change to your rating. If you have a rating of 500 and get a draw with a grand master you will be awarded rating points for being able to hold your own against someone much stronger than you. By the same token, if you are the grand master and you get a draw with a 500 player you will lose rating points because you're supposed to be good enough that you can beat a 500 player and if you let him get a draw your rating takes a hit.

Ilampozhil25

but aborts are 0 change though.

Ilampozhil25

Here is the support article. 

Here is another one.

DanielPaul9
Yes
Stalemate is the exact same as a draw
You can consider it as a fancier way of saying draw
l5aiah
DanielPaul9 wrote:
Yes
Stalemate is the exact same as a draw
You can consider it as a fancier way of saying draw

Stale mates just come out of no where if you aren't careful enough

Strangemover

Explinated orthogonally. 

l5aiah
Strangemover wrote:

Explinated orthogonally. 

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Strangemover

Posts #5 #7 #10. Somebody swallowed a thesaurus.