When to resign - Etiquette - An honest appeal

Go ahead people. Use my statement to your pleasure. I'm glad you find it so trascendental. It's funny how I should resign a queen (which is a piece, btw) down in a middlegame (not a lost endgame) or else I'm a hypocrite. Funny because I've resigned a minor piece down in openings, middlegames and endgames. I have resigned a queen down in openings. And we all know how clearly equivalent it is to play a queen down in a middlegame to play a K vs R+K endgame. Perfectly equivalent...

Your rationalizing is so miserable it almost makes me pity you

At first as with most topics here I just cocked my head like a dog when only he hears a noise.

Then i went after the OP pretty hard, and for that I apologize.  Because it was becoming pretty darn obvious that one of three things was happening:

1. The OP started this for attention.

2. The OP honestly has no clue, as to what is going on.

3. The OP has dug himself such a deep hole with the lies, and contradictions, he couldn't climb out if he had stairs. 

I sincerely wish he would just fess up, and apologize.  The more he replies, the worse it gets.

@IMBacon... if you're serious about apologizing to me about your unnecessary hostility, for whatever it's worth, I accept your apologies. Since you think I post an appeal and spend countless messages trying to refer back to the nature of the appeal (and not my chess expertise) as somewhat pitiful, I apologize sincerely for what constitute unnecessary replies under those terms. I have started to find it increasingly useless to post on these forums, since civilon topic discussion seems to be rare...

I consider my posting in this thread to be over. I got replies disagreeing with me with several interesting arguments, partial agreements and a lot of hostility I endured as much as I can. I hope you all enjoyed it. See you all on the board (if the pairing system allows it) and happy chessing.

Judging by the way @wornaki is writing, and his inexperience in chess, i would say he is between 10 and 13 years old, discovered chess recently on twich, watched few of Nakamura streams and suddenly thinks he drank all chess knowledge of the world and cant be bothered to do something as simple as rook and king endgame. I saw that game btw, you drew on a 50 move rule, you literally didnt know the technique!!! So i suggest instead of crying about it on a forum, pick up a book, and learn your basic mating patterns.

He is writing like some pretentious 20 year old. 

I think a piece is usually considered a knight or bishop. And sometimes a rook. A queen, and sometimes rook, are usually called major piece. To say a queen is a piece is true, you are right, but so is a king or a pawn. They are all pieces. But I think piece usually just means knight or bishop.

When someone says they are down a piece or up a piece, it's almost never referring to a king, queen, or pawn. 

So.....your opponent had a losing position but he got a draw out of it!?

I don't understand what your issue is, either it's opponents who don't resign lost positions or opponents who don't resign salvageable positions.

In all fairness that's a tough topic. One the one hand, you know how many L's I would have taken if I had given up on certain games. 

On the other, you know how many times I've had an opponent down to a K and a Pawn against my King, queen and a Rook.

So...the question that begs to be asked is, what is the consensus if there is any as to what qualifies as a resign or not position?

Etiquette in OTB which is played with an audience in the playing room and etiquette in a lone room whose name is usually unknown are two different things.

I would like an opponent to resign in a clearly lost and technically easy finale here, but I no longer expect it when the maxim "No-one ever won by resigning" is quoted so regularly.

Etiquette went out with Knives and Forks I am sorry to say.

I think it is number 1,

And 2

And 3.

Just yesterday I played a game where, entering middle game I was in a strong position. Two dopey moves and I was clearly losing by the time we were in end game.

My opponent made his own blunder and ... I won.

I never thought losing was a sure thing, so I didn't resign.

You should only reason when you know your opponent knows how to win. Yet you didn't know how to win but is angry at your opponent for rightfully playing to the end. Not up for thinking isn't even an excuse because K+R vs K doesn't even require any thinking.

There's no question that to "resign or not resign" is a complicated and very nuanced subject. However I believe that there are moments in which resigning on a "karmic" level is best. What do I mean? 

As I write this I'm in a game with someone it's my K+R+6p vs his lonely K.  See Diagram: I hope I'm doing this right.

I can promote a pawn in 4 moves but potentially i could be waiting a long time.

4 moves times 3 days per move. Equals 12 days, .........What say ye!?

Just like the jews jkjk

LOL but seriously that's a pretty rude joke (and the Jews were sent to gas chambers btw)

OP either thinks they're doing some clever trolling or they're completely effing insane. This is the second post in two weeks that they've complained like this. The first time I was convinced by OP and others that they were serious, but no one, and I mean NO ONE, is this stupid. To think OP genuinely believes it's not their duty to convert what they call a "winning endgame" (which obviously isn't winning if they can't convert one of the most basic endgames), but that their opponent should "just resign" is mind blowing to me. It's literally the aim of the game.

@wornaki, why should your opponent give you a free win without making you prove that you have the technique to win, especially at your level? Take 5 minutes to learn the endgame and stop with these pathetic cries for attention ffs.

I think it is annoying for players that have completely winning positions for their opponents not to resign. It will happen so get used to it. I feel the same way but they do have a right to do so

I know you werent trying to be rude.....but its still very rude.