Why do many beginners bring the queen out on the second or third move? - Chess Forums - Page 3

iofferyoutoresign

Jul 25, 2020

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#41

DerekDHarvey wrote:

But I am attacking.

im attacking too!

EnCroissantCheckmate

Jul 25, 2020

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#42

francis20110 wrote:

I'm a beginner too but never do this.

Occasionally it will gain material for them but the vast majority of the time I just end up chasing their queen around the board while developing pieces.

What is the logic of bringing the queen out on the second or third move?

They try for Scholar's mate, which almost never works, even against 600 rated players

ChristianBC

Jul 25, 2020

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#43

White can deal with Qg5 this way.

DerekDHarvey

Jul 26, 2020

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#44

3. ... Qg6 is OK OTB.

i-is-a-shape

Jul 26, 2020

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#45

DerekDHarvey wrote:

3. ... Qg6 is OK OTB.

No, it's not ok

i-is-a-shape

Jul 26, 2020

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#46

Srimurugan108

Jul 26, 2020

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#47

To be honest Before I thought that the four move checkmate was a sham but it works well against players with an average rating

chesschesskid

Jul 26, 2020

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#48

Kraig wrote:

Most beginners know it’s a powerful piece - so I think they think by having a big gun out in the board early on is an advantage for them. These people still lack opening principles, developing pieces, etc.

Saying that, I beat a 1690 blitz player yesterday who brought his queen out on move 3 to scholars mate me, when I simple moved pawn e6, he immediately retreated his queen back to d1 and was simple one tempo down for no reason.

AtaChess68 wrote:

Have a plan... I think that’s exactly the reason why absolute beginners do it. You learn scholars mate in your second week, and there it is, your first plan.

Then you play at your level and sometimes your plan works, sometimes not. But you are not really punished for it. And if you are you don’t understand it.

It then takes a while, a lot of games, and some study maybe, to understand that developing minor pieces is important. A new step.

Nothing wrong here I think. Just people having fun and learning the game.

Ya its both of these reasons combined.

So that makes beginners REALLY want to take it out early

Laskersnephew

Jul 26, 2020

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#49

The queen is the most powerful piece in the game, so it's very logical to want to get it into action as quickly as possible. With a little experience we learn why it's not usually a good idea to expose your Queen so early. But for a beginner the early queen move makes sense and shows a healthy level of aggression.

DerekDHarvey

Jul 26, 2020

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#50

All rules can be broken, given a good enough reason.

NM EnergeticHay

Jul 26, 2020

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#51

Laskersnephew wrote:

The queen is the most powerful piece in the game, so it's very logical to want to get it into action as quickly as possible. With a little experience we learn why it's not usually a good idea to expose your Queen so early. But for a beginner the early queen move makes sense and shows a healthy level of aggression.

I agree

xiaotonghuang9

Jul 26, 2020

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#52

beginners bring the queen out because they don't know that much

chesschesskid

Jul 27, 2020

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#53

DerekDHarvey wrote:

All rules can be broken, given a good enough reason.

that is true but ussually theres not a good enough reason

KidOfScotch

Jul 27, 2020

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#54

I'm a beginner too by the reason is that they think it is powerful so they bring it out!

xiaotonghuang9

Jul 27, 2020

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#55

oh, I didn't think like that when I was a beginner

santiagomagno15

Jul 27, 2020

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#56

It seems logical when you are a begginer, the queen is really powerful so lets bring her out fast