Astrology Chess Readings

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trysts

How do I know that you're not just getting this information to track me down? With that information you can get my social security number and then get my birth certificate and hack into my bank account. I will tell you that I wasn't born yesterdayWink

IAmAquarius

I mean, its fine dude, I just literally can't do it without your location. I can do it without your exact time of birth, but I won't know which constellation was rising.

trysts

Well here's your astrology reading from me: You will be wealthy if enough people give you the information required for a scam. I just had my e-mail hacked into by a member here not more than two weeks ago. You people are crazy.

wilford-n
IAmAquarius wrote:

I mean, science claims to have disproven acupuncture and the subtle body but that isn't the case is it? In fact, if you purchase a copy of Qi, a magazine dedicated to chiese medicine and practice, you can find that scientists haven't done at all a good job of disproving any of it. Since science is deductive, science actually can only prove things true. It cannot prove anything false. You would need statistical analysis to do this, and this has been done. Chaos Theory indirectly lends credence to astrology, its how I was convinced that it was a true thing. Anyway I'll leave you to your delusions(not in the pejorative sense but the original sense), which we are both operating under by the way; we are both using faith to affirm our positions.

"If you purchase a copy of Qi"...

No discernable self-promotion agenda in a magazine with a title like that, no sir! No thanks; I prefer to get my information about science from, you know, scientific journals that undergo peer review. Otherwise, methodological flaws get through. Also, one might get misinformed ideas like this one:

"Science actually can only prove things true."

Actually, science doesn't directly prove anything; it can only lend support to one among various competing hypotheses. In the case of astrology, all studies conducted have supported the null hypothesis and failed to support any astrological hypothesis. By Bayesian inference, we can therefore say with a high degree of certainty that astrology is false, and every subsequent study that fails to support astrology increases that certainty exponentially. That's why controling for the Forer Effect is important: it represents the null hypothesis. A "true" astrological reading is no more reliable than a "scam" astrological reading (as represented by an identical standardized "analysis"). Therefore the null hypothesis is far, far, far more likely to be true, in that it completely explains the lack of any discernable difference.

 

Now, if one combines warm- and hot-reading techniques with supposed astrology, one can outperform the Forer Effect. This is how I wrote horoscopes back when I was so unprincipled as to have no problem taking money from gullible people (I had to pay my own way through college somehow; no cushy trust fund or college account for me), and it's how I got repeat business every time a relationship started or ended.

 

By the way, you can do a natal chart without location/time. I used to do charts like that all the time, when the client just didn't know. (I also note that the rising sign and houses don't enter into either analysis you posted so far.) The downside is you don't have enough information to determine houses... but you still have planets in signs and aspects between planets to draw from. Plus, you have the Forer Effect working in your favor, so don't sweat it.

BigKingBud