1. a5 b5 then I'm stuck.
I can get into a position where white gets at least a draw, but black can selfmate.
Draw without taking?
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but with the selfmate white has to take and we don't wan't to take, also it isn't draw... if you think you know, please post your solution in a game. There are two solutions but they are still look-alikes.
"but with the selfmate white has to take and we don't wan't to take, also it isn't draw"
Exactly, that's why I don't think I have a solution. White uses 6 moves to get his pawns locked, black promotes the turn before in 5.
I think you get it, but think deeper.
a5 b5 a6 b4 a4 b3 a5 b2 a4 b1=anything stalemate
a4!
Of course.
I made a position out of pawns, so is there a way for white to draw without taking? Let's say black doesn't want a draw. It isn't that hard...