How to make illegal positions

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huh..

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checkmateisnear wrote:
Eebster wrote:
tyzebug wrote:

I think you left an extra black pawn in there. But it's certainly an interesting position...and it's certainly illegal. XD


Oops, yeah I did. Here is a legal position of self-stalemate.

EDIT: NOOOOOOOOO carelessness strikes again.

 Doesn't seem to be a stalemate as white can move his pawns.


No, you're looking at the board wrong. White's home rank is at the bottom of the board, and the promotion rank is at the top of the board. However, I did make a mistake by switching white's rook and knight at a8 and b8.

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Legal or Illegal?  :)  You decide.

 

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Legal.

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Eiwob wrote:

Illegal. Black has taken five pieces with his pawns, and white has only lost four.


Very good observation.  :)  That is correct.  The black pawns need to make a minimum of 5 captures to reach that position, but white has only lost 4 pieces so that position cannot happen in a game.

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That's clever. I suddenly like retrograde analysis puzzles a lot more now...

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Legal or illegal?

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That position looks legal since black's queen could have been a promotion from black's h-pawn.

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einstein_69101 wrote:

That position looks legal since black's queen could have been a promotion from black's h-pawn.


No, it's illegal. The Black h-pawn would have had to get past the White h- or g-pawn, but they're still both on their starting squares. How about this? Still illegal?

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:)

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Or if black wants to keep castling rights then here is another possibility:

 

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I came here thinking it was "illegal" as in this, i thought people finally found out about this glitch =P

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einstein_69101 wrote:

:)

 


I missed out on that possibility.

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know why?
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barginm1n264 wrote:
know why?

Well, the pawns would have had to get past each other to get that far, so it's illegal. Also, the rooks, queens, kings, and bishops couldn't have gotten in there. :-) 

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Legal or illegal?  :)

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legal

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einstein_69101 wrote:

 

Legal or illegal?  :)

 


Looks legal, but barely.