Illegal Position Contest!

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Chessman265 wrote:

This is a common trick puzzle, because it appears in a semi-famous book, but is it possible for this position to be reached with white to move?

What if white shuffles the knight to open

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BigDoggProblem wrote:
MammothCricket wrote:

this position, but black to move...

RE: #8976

Legal, even with Black to move.

ah congrats you spotted it

lol i thought id just try to trick people

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n9531l1 wrote:
Little_Skib wrote:
Is this position legal? Why or why not? (#8972)
 
 
 

The black bishop left c8 before the white knight got there, in order to be captured at f3, so the knight arrived from d6. Before it reached d6, the black queen had moved to b8 to let Black escape a check by the knight. But after the knight reached c8 and the king returned to e8, the queen was blocked from returning to d8, so the position is illegal.

Legal:

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But right-way up, the position is indeed illegal.

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Little_Skib wrote:
 

RE: 8988

Seems legal. Last few moves could have been:

 
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I completely forgot about a capture on h8, my idea was to force h7-h8=n and not give black a legal last move but I didn’t think of a g7 pawn promoting on h8.

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set the board up the wrong way...

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Little_Skib wrote:

I completely forgot about a capture on h8, my idea was to force h7-h8=n and not give black a legal last move but I didn’t think of a g7 pawn promoting on h8.

I suppose you could put a black pawn on g7, but then there is no try with bK coming from g7.

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e7rook wrote:
I haven't posted in a while, sorry about that

RE: #8993

Legal. Last few moves could have been:

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That's quite harsh, a 23 move retraction

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e7rook wrote:
 

RE: 8996

both Kings are in check

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BigDoggProblem wrote:
e7rook wrote:
 

RE: 8996

both Kings are in check

Sorry lol didn't see that

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I’m sure @BigDoggProblem will find some way to prove this legal but as far as I know it’s illegal.

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Little_Skib wrote:
 

RE: 8999

White is missing an R, and Bc1 which never moved. Black K could only have reached h1 via h3/g2, meaning white played g2-g3, but then the R could not have gotten out to sac on c6.

Illegal.