IncrediBill vs zrylam (with kibitzers)

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I think you should safe your king before u start the attack

I am not sure why @corpsporc is suggesting the 5.Ne5 move.  The square is unprotected and I would be just giving away a piece.  Unless there is some gambit that I do not see, it would seem like an unsound choice.

I think that going with @Roeczak's suggestion of castling is the best way to go.  Once the King is safely tucked away, I can afford to be a bit more aggressive with other moves and not have to worry about going back to save the King.

Since I am assuming that @zrylam is playing a King's Indian defense, which I think is generally a more passive position to play, then it sort of puts the ball in my court to play a bit more aggressive.  So I might as well play my safe moves now, and then try to, "let 'er rip".

Therefore:

5.O-O

with white 2/3 66% moves I say

with black 1/2 50% moves I say

TOTAL 3/5 60% moves I say

GREAT

Normally the King's Indian Defense is played when White open's with d4.  But because it is being played with an e4 openinng, @zrylam is going to have to make some variations out in front of himself.  His e5 move was necessary in order to allow him to bring his Knight out to f6.  If he played Nf6 first, then I would play e5 and interfere with his plans.  By him moving to e5 first, then he blocks that move for me.

I am assuming that his next move will be Nf6.  Since that move is going to threaten my e4 pawn, then I think that I should be a little 'pro-active' and throw some defense on that pawn in advance, instead of protecting it after the fact.

I feel that the best move to accomplish this would be d3.  Since my light square Bishop is already out, then this move will not block it in (glad I brought it out when I did).  It also opens up a path for my dark square Bishop to be set free.  Most importantly, it gives some solid defense to my e4 pawn.

So unless someone suggests another type of defense, or another line of attack, then I think that d3 is going to be my move. 

ok d3 but not for protecting the pawn as much as for opening the bishop

and a future idea: you have an outpost on d5 in front of his weak pawn on d7 (d6) so for a future idea you could exchange the knight on f6 (eg for a bishop or even a rook if the outpost becomes even stronger) and put your c3 knight on d5 before @zrylam attacks your "early Nc3"

d3 it is

I did not expect 6. Nge7 to be played.  I guess it is because I have never been comfortable with playing it myself.  I always like the idea of getting my Knights out to cover the centre squares.  Even though 6. Nf6 would block his f-pawn from advancing, I am not sure why he would want to advance it, especially when he plans to tuck his King in behind it.  It would seem that keeping the f-pawn right where it is, would be the best place for it to be.  Anyway, I am interested to see how it plays out.  If I am proven wrong, then maybe I should consider playing my Knight to the second rank.

I must admit, though, that not playing his Knight to the f6 square, does preserve his Bishop's protection of the e5-pawn.  My back of the mind thought of at one time playing Bxc6, so that I might be able to capture that e5-pawn, is no longer an option.

So while @zrylam seems to have his pieces nice and tight together and supporting each other, I think that I need to try and be a bit more aggressive and start applying some pressure.  My thoughts are playing Bg5 and pinning his Knight against the Queen.  I would not mind some other suggestions, or a good reason why that move might blow up in my face.

I am not sure but Bg5 seeme like too much

propably Be3 attacking the c5 pawn (d6?! and the knight is pinned)

and then you should decide where to move the bishop (after e.g. b6)

Bg5 seeme ok but i think that move is a very good alternetive

Roeczak

I like the Be3 move, it is pretty straight forward and safe.  But I think it is time to get a little more aggresive:

7. Bg5

a6

I could do the exchange and play 8.Bxc6 and double up his pawns or I could play 8.Bxe7, which doesn't do much for me and, if anything, just helps him get his Queen out into the action.

However, as they said in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, "Run away, Run away".  I think I like the idea of keeping all of my pieces on the board and just moving my Bishop to safety with 8. Bc4.

I would be interested to see if anyone sees some other options or "surprise attacks".

I agree Bc4

I agree that it's no deal to trade a bishop for a pawn, but then why do we rush out to make these (pointless?) pins?

 You are correct.  However, the actual trade would be my Bishop for his Knight, 8. Bxc6, which would then double up his pawns when he recaptures.  It does look pointless to threaten the Knight and then not take it, but my original objective was to get my Bishop out past the d-pawn, so I could then move my d-pawn out to d3 without trapping my Bishop (I also wanted to move my Bishop out so I could castle). 

So at the time when I was moving my Bishop out I had two choices,  either c4 or b5.  I just happenned to pick b5.  The threatening of the Knight was more incidental, than an actual future object of capturing it.  Although, I did like to have that option if I choose to exercise it.

However, for now I would rather keep my Bishop and play . . .  8. Bc4

no youre not missing anything b5 is a must in this kind of positions

possible is Bd5 pinning the knight to the rook and Bb3 (c4?? dxc4 bxc4 Bxc4!)

I suggest Bd5

I think that Bd5 is going to lead to some even exchanges.  @zrylam's next move is probably to castle, so I think I would like to keep my Bishop's guns focused in that direction.  Also, if he chooses to push the b-pawn up one more square, I wouldn't mind having that d5 square as an option for my Knight.

Therefore . . . . 9. Bb3

your g5 bishop isnt pointing on the kingside...

anyway i am between castling and Qc7 or Qb6 unpinn the knight(yes i am afraid of Nd5)

Ok i found a very interesting idea you might play it if you want incredibill

Qd2!? preparing for Bh6 aiming to create a weakness... It is a typical idea of this kind of positions (any chess book mentions it)

I like the 10. Qd2 move followed by 11. Bh6.  It would create a bit of a standoff between our Bishops, since he would not want to do the exchange and end up with my Queen sitting on the h6 square. 

However, I would like to try and be a bit more agressive and get some more pieces into his territory and create some more threats.  I think that I am going to go advance my Knight and play . . . . 10. Nd5

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