really funny position! Win or draw?

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Amnesiac wrote:
gimmewuchagot wrote:
SerbianChessStar wrote:

Draw,

1. c7 Nfd6

2. c8Q h1Q

3. Qxb7+ Nxb7


 May I ask you what happens after 1. ... h1=Q?


c8....Bishop! Found on an engine. c8Q loses, c8R loses, c8N loses but c8B draws! Never seen that before.


 this is the answer

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i got it, it is a black win

: anything to say?

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Amnesiac wrote:

This has been mentioned before, white has the amazing resource 2 c8B!!. This is the only time I have ever seen where it has to be a bishop. If queen then like you say Qh8 wins easily, if a knight then there are various ways for black to mate quickly, same with rook but with bishop it has the "ability" to be pinned whilst not able to capture the piece doing it. So the normal winning method of Qh8 doesn't work against the bishop as it will be pinned and unable to capture the queen like a rook or queen.

Anyway, please stop wuzhe. Just let it go, it is a draw :-)


 yep, yer rite!

or

Yep, your right!

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then this quesion's answer is black win, yey, i solved it! that just came up in my mind when i was brushing my teethUndecided, strange, why no one said anything about this answer, anyway, i think i should have a puzzle, whatever...... GOOD LUCK!

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wuzhe wrote:

then this quesion's answer is black win, yey, i solved it! that just came up in my mind when i was brushing my teeth, strange, why no one said anything about this answer, anyway, i think i should have a puzzle, whatever...... GOOD LUCK!


 NO i wasnt talking to you

1 c7 h1Q

2 c8B!! with the idea of Bxb7, Qh8

1/2-1/2, stalemate!

its a draw

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you know w

hat, you are sooo right. then what about this puzzle

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dizzy, what if that was a 2 minute game, and 10 seconds left on the clock, wat you do! you do queen or bishop, please tell the truth, i will do queen

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i would give a quick 7 second thought and

bishop

really, it didnt take even 10 second for me to find c8B!! 

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god, just forget about it, just... ummm, well, just do nothing

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...

*doing nothing*

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god, you got be kidding, just forget about it, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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MERRY CHRISTMAS!

*doing nothing*

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i laughed.

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whites down that much, but still draws, LOL

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gimmewuchagot wrote:

whites down that much, but still draws, LOL


 but would there be realistically  black pawns on the same file?

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ARandomPerson wrote:
gimmewuchagot wrote:

whites down that much, but still draws, LOL


 but would there be realistically  black pawns on the same file?


 of course, it's made up

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OMG so a draw!

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here is another position with a draw ending(happened in my games, 6 pawn + Bishop vs 5 pawn

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no black wins:

1. Ke2   Bc8

2. Kd3  Bxc5 wins

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kamikadzeto7 wrote:

I think its win for the  black


 mhmmm i agree lets say draw