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Quite a pair of defenses. I too think attacking the king side of black looks the best, problem seems to be getting through the pawns. Very well placed,...
I am not a pro but I am a thinker with great foresight. I believe white is in a better position or at least if I was playing it I would make it seem that way by bringing up my single killer knight between the two black pawns and I belive that would mess blacks head up.
as black you better watch out for e4. if fxe4 then white could play Bg5 winning in the exchange
I would say it is about a draw! : )
White could play 5. Qh5...
Very closed...
Apr 12, 2008
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Davidmingming wrote: I would say it is about a draw! : )
1.e4??? makes no sense after dxe4 or fxe4, forking white's bishop and knight.
Apr 12, 2008
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ADK wrote:
OK analyize the diagram and tell me who's in a better position.
White's attack is dead, and you can play for one of your own (just don't lock it up like how white did!). I would say atleast alittle better for black.
black should have played xe4 than a6, that is the only move I can see that look good to me
Black gets to decide when to play e5 and open it up some.
I would say definately black has the advantage given the pawn structure. White has two bishops and a knight, one good bishop and one really bad one, whereas Black has a good bishop and two knights which is quite a good combo in such a closed and locked up position.
wow, cool position.
This position is deceptive:
My hunch was: Black HAS to be better.
Position is closed on the queenside, and black has a pawn storm on the kingside.
However, I'm no longer sure:
white has a plan of his own here: play for f3 and e4, blasting open the position. If that happens, white's bishops will eventually give him a much better game.
even if only the kingside opens up, and not the center, white can easily bring all the defenders he need in there. And if black doesn't have enough play when even a small piece of the board opens up, he's in trouble.
I think white is fighting on equal grounds here:
1.Bc3 g5 2.Nd2 (Ne5 is interesting, and it has its plusses and minusses over Nd2),
g4 (to work against f3, besides, that pawn will have to advance here anyway as part of the pawn storm), 3.f3! now what?
a) 3...gxf3 (preventing white's original plan (since gxf3 will give black too much play, the e4 plan has been stopped) ) Nxf3 and even the "bad" c3 bishop can enter the game on the kingside quickly. White already has enough defenders. h4 can be answered by h3. In this line, white is happy. Black will take a while to create any attack.
b)3... h5 and again, it takes quite a while for the attakc to materialize. white can maneuver surprisingly well within this cramped structure. Black will have to open the position up sometime. I would call this position unclear.
So far, the only conclusion I've reached is that it's not easy at all for black to do anything, while white has more than one possible plan (open up lines, either in the center or on the kingside). Still, black's temporary free hand on the kingside means that this requires a lot of analysis.
ADK wrote: Wow thanx for that long comment...
Thanks for posting that interesting position. I'm interested in analyzing it a lot further. I'm curious about what's going on in there.
ADK wrote:
That game ended about a month ago so I'm not entirely sure what happened...
If you want I can post another game.
That's ok. Since we humans tend to miss our best chances in the position (even GMs, but other players a lot more so),
often analysis of what could or should have happened in a game is a lot more interesting than what did happen.
Analyize the diagram and tell me who's in a better position.