Fighting the Fried Liver Attack

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tigerprowl9

Do you just try to trade off the a5 knight or bring it back into the game?  Here's a recent game.



tigerprowl9
Fiveofswords wrote:

yet another thread about the fried liver which is not the fried liver

What do you want to call it then?  When I search, the same position comes up.  The thread is titled "Fighting the Fried Liver Attack", it isn't called "This is the only Fried Liver Attack Position".  Should we say Fried Liver Attack Declined then?

TitanCG

The Fried Liver is where they take on f7. Anyway the knight can be on a5 for quite some time. But Black has more active things to do like 8...h6 9.Nf3 e4 10.Ne5 Bd6 and so on. The only thing I can suggest is to watch many games in this line from the old days and then look at some present day games, search on youtube or get a really good opening book that breaks it down for club players.

tigerprowl9

"The Fried Liver is where they take on f7."

"the fried liver is the position after 5 ...nxd5"

Both you guys are missing the meaning behind the word "fighting".  I am not saying "playing the fried liver attack", I am saying "fighting" as in "fighting crime", preventing something from happening.

TitanCG

5...Na5 prevents the Fried Liver. Anyway I remember Boris Alterman doing a video series on the two knights and it was really good. The theory isn't up to date now but it was a really good series and went over a lot of the ideas from a historical perspective. Yasser Seirawan is one of the other GMs I notice that does this and it's a really effective way to look at openings.

tigerprowl9

I see your point fiveofswords.  However, two things.  I am specifically avoiding Nxd5 because know I don't want to play that line.  In a Poison Pawn variation, you don't have a choice to tell your opponent to take or not take.  You expose a pawn and it is for them to take or not.  Nxd5 doesn't define the Fried Liver Attack.  It is one move in that line, which I stress again I was avoiding.


The other point is, let's say I posted a thread with "Two Knights Morphy Variation" in the title.  Would more people relate to this than Fried Liver Attack?  You got to admit, it's in the ballpark and more people can take part in the conversation.

 

Anyway, I see one person agrees with me, "5...Na5 prevents the Fried Liver.", thank you TitanCG for your suggestions.  I plan to be in St.Louis soon.

Murphy70

Its the 2 Knights, Wilkes Barre / Traxler, or the mash it up now opening.

tigerprowl9
Murphy70 wrote:

Its the 2 Knights, Wilkes Barre / Traxler, or the mash it up now opening.

Maybe it should have been but closer eyes will see a B on e7, not c5 (C57).

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/two-knights-defence-wilkes-barre-traxler-variation

https://gameknot.com/chess-opening/two-knights-defence-c57-wilkes-barre-traxler-variation?nd=1288

 

Still a C58 from what I can see.