First time self analysis of a lost game.

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jstachowicz

This is my first attempt at self analysis of one of my games.  I have been playing since I was 6 or 7, but hadnt really played all that much the last 12 years or so.  The following game, started off standard, but I need to work on my middlegame and endgame strategies I do believe. I welcome all advice good or bad!!

wowiezowie

3. ..Bb4 is hardly "standard"  I'd say a6-Morphy's defense or Nf6 - the Berlin Wall would be considered more "standard"  Also 9. ..Bd7 would have helped you more than what was played...

RenataCFC

Agree on 3. ... Bb4 -- after you got chased around like you did, you wind up with white having three pieces developed to your one, better center pawns, your knight is still pinned ... It looks nasty, honestly.  9. ... Nf6 is a tactical blunder.  You need to recognize that your knight can't move to save itself if white plays d5 (which he did), nor is there any way to remove the attacking pawn.  (This is why the previous commenter recommended un-pinning with 9. ... Bd7.)

10. ... Nxe4 winds up pinning your knight to your king and ends in the loss of that piece as well (see the theme here?)  11. ...b6 again loses you your chance to unpin (by castling I guess), before the loss of the knight is forced.  The situation with the advanced pawn is ugly regardless, of course.

Given the strength disparity between you and your opponent you had really lost this game even before your blunder on move 9.

Sorbis

What do you mean by "should of been a draw" after move 40. I cant say I agree =/.

pfren

GM Jonny Hector has played 3...Bb4 a lot of times, so it can't be such a bad move (although hardly standard, of course). But 4.c3 should be answered by 4...Ba5, not 4...Bc5 (which is the Cordel variation of the Ruy a whole tempo down). Anyway, 5.a4 is certainly not the way to punish 4...Bc5. Fischer met this move once (at a 1964 simul) replied with the natural 5.d4, and won very easily.

jstachowicz
Sorbis wrote: What do you mean by "should of been a draw" after move 40. I cant say I agree =/. Three fold repetition on my end, is what I meant. Thank you for the comments, i have been looking at some other games i have played and i notice i tend to sacrifice pieces and put myself in losing positions.
Sorbis
There is no threefolded repetiton anywhere in this game, learn the rules before you play.
ChessisGood
jstachowicz wrote:
Sorbis wrote: What do you mean by "should of been a draw" after move 40. I cant say I agree =/. Three fold repetition on my end, is what I meant. Thank you for the comments, i have been looking at some other games i have played and i notice i tend to sacrifice pieces and put myself in losing positions.

Hey Jon, it might benefit you to notice that 3 move repetition has no effect on a chess game. 3 position repetition however leads to a draw. The position, not moves, must be repeated 3 times.

pfren

Indeed, and those positions have to be dynamically identical (that is: including castling rights and en-passant abilities) for both sides.

badknight

GM Jonny Hector has played 3...Bb4 a lot of times, so it can't be such a bad move (although hardly standard, of course)

Its hard to justify a move like this. I was wondering what could be the advantage of playing like this. It allows white to build a strong center with tempo for nothing that is apparent to me. Am I missing something? 

pfren
badknight wrote:

GM Jonny Hector has played 3...Bb4 a lot of times, so it can't be such a bad move (although hardly standard, of course)

Its hard to justify a move like this. I was wondering what could be the advantage of playing like this. It allows white to build a strong center with tempo for nothing that is apparent to me. Am I missing something? 


An optimist would call 4.c2-c3 as blocking the knight's best square, and not being that useful if white can't achieve a quick d2-d4 (after 4...Ba5). White has two ways to some advantage (4.c3 Ba5 and now either 5.Qa4 Bb6 6.d4 or 5.0-0 Nge7 6.Na3) but in boath cases this advantage is fairly manageable. For more details, I'm afraid you have to ask mr.Hector in person.

The main advantage of that variation (called Alapin variation) is the almost complete lack of theory.

Stefan Buecker claims that in the Ruy Lopez moves such as 3...a5 and 3...Rb8 are entirely playable- white has no more than a very slight advantage.

HeIsRisenIndeed

My personal, 1270-something rated opinion is that piece sacrifices should hardly ever be played by low amateurs.  We don't have the deep understanding of positions necessary to pull these off.  There may be exceptional cases where it is obvious that within, say, 3 moves the sacrifice will reap benefits, but I have found those cases few and very far between!

waffllemaster

paulgottlieb I think your advice is great for a player who is a bit stronger.  But really the only way to improve in the beginning is to learn the basics first before you venture to experiment with the exceptions.

Or in other words, don't hang pieces and call it ingenuity :)

RenataCFC
paulgottlieb wrote:
Counterattacking against the pinning piece will often get you out of trouble, so add that idea to your arsenal.

Nothing makes a motif stick like having it pointed out in public when you failed to see it.  Thanks.