Fritz 15 seems slow

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SilentKnighte5

Houdini 5 will be out this year, so you can replace Fritz with that.

Another-Life
SilentKnighte5 wrote:

Houdini 5 will be out this year, so you can replace Fritz with that.

He is already using Stockfish 7, not the internal Fritz 15 (Rybka 4.1) engine, you haven't read his posts properly.

 

prfren is right, for example an i3 may have two physical cores but because of Hyperthreading report 4 cores to the operating system. You should set the engine to 2 cores in this case.

Stipe24
Another-Life wrote:

You can reduce the threads that Stockfish uses. I don't know how computer-knowledgeable you are but if you want me to help, post your CPU type and how many threads Stockfish currently uses.


A bit out of date to the latest state of the art tech, but I pick things up fast as I got a wide base from before.

I got an i7 - Lenovo IdeaCentre 700, All In One Black Touch, F0BD002VSC, Intel® Core™ i7-6700 (8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz),8GB,2TB+8GB SSD


From what I see (when I click to "Add kibitzer", pick SF and then click the Advanced button, and then go to "Engine Parameters"), SF is set to 4 threads.

SilentKnighte5
Another-Life wrote:
prfren is right, for example an i3 may have two physical cores but because of Hyperthreading report 4 cores to the operating system. You should set the engine to 2 cores in this case.

Umm, that's what I said.

SilentKnighte5
Stipe24 wrote:
Another-Life wrote:

You can reduce the threads that Stockfish uses. I don't know how computer-knowledgeable you are but if you want me to help, post your CPU type and how many threads Stockfish currently uses.


A bit out of date to the latest state of the art tech, but I pick things up fast as I got a wide base from before.

I got an i7 - Lenovo IdeaCentre 700, All In One Black Touch, F0BD002VSC, Intel® Core™ i7-6700 (8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz),8GB,2TB+8GB SSD


From what I see (when I click to "Add kibitzer", pick SF and then click the Advanced button, and then go to "Engine Parameters"), SF is set to 4 threads.

4 is correct for this processor.

Another-Life
Stipe24 wrote:
Another-Life wrote:

You can reduce the threads that Stockfish uses. I don't know how computer-knowledgeable you are but if you want me to help, post your CPU type and how many threads Stockfish currently uses.


A bit out of date to the latest state of the art tech, but I pick things up fast as I got a wide base from before.

I got an i7 - Lenovo IdeaCentre 700, All In One Black Touch, F0BD002VSC, Intel® Core™ i7-6700 (8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz),8GB,2TB+8GB SSD


From what I see (when I click to "Add kibitzer", pick SF and then click the Advanced button, and then go to "Engine Parameters"), SF is set to 4 threads.

Maybe it will be easier on the CPU if you set the threads to 3 since you are having fan/temp problems. There will be a drop in the engine's performance of course but I don't think it will be a problem, heh.

Stipe24

I think following the advice set here - UCI setting set to low, and setting SF to 1 thread - works very well.

SF straight from ChessBase used to be useless before that.


Thank you guys very much!

pfren
Stipe24 wrote:

From what I see (when I click to "Add kibitzer", pick SF and then click the Advanced button, and then go to "Engine Parameters"), SF is set to 4 threads.

4 is the right sum for your CPU.

Do you have hyperthreading enabled through the system BIOS?

Stipe24

My system BIOS is virtually unreachable so I do not know.
I wasn't able to find a key that'd enter it during the bootup, and the typical 10 steps Win10 operations listed on various sites (including Lenovo's own) lead me to step 6 or 7 where, in the "Advanced restart options", I'm supposed to click "Enter UEFI menu" but that option is not available for me on my system.

Another-Life

4 gives maximum performance for your CPU but if you want to put less strain on the fan/temperature, keep it at less cores.

pfren
Stipe24 wrote:

My system BIOS is virtually unreachable so I do not know.
I wasn't able to find a key that'd enter it during the bootup, and the typical 10 steps Win10 operations listed on various sites (including Lenovo's own) lead me to step 6 or 7 where, in the "Advanced restart options", I'm supposed to click "Enter UEFI menu" but that option is not available for me on my system.

You can find out using a system monitor like CoreTemp. If it reports 8 threads, then hyperthreading is enabled.

Ian_McCain

I replaced the standard AMD cooler and fan (which is small and noisy) on my Athlon II 640 4 core CPU with a nice big fan and air cooler from Scan.co.uk.(https://www.scan.co.uk/products/be-quiet!-shadow-rock-slim-compact-cpu-cooler-135mm-silent-fan-237dba-100-160w-tdp-intel-and-amd) The CPU maximum operating temperature dropped by 30degC from 75 to 45. The larger 135mm CPU fan is also very quiet, even at maximum fan speed. which is usually around 1100rpm at maximum cooling. Now it doesn't matter how hard I push the CPU, it stays cool and quiet.

Another-Life

What is this? Are you advertising or what?

 

..... wtf

Ian_McCain

Another-Life, take a chill-pill. Just trying to give some help.