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Avatar of Apoapsis

I lost this game. I will accept all criticism and pointers. I've never beaten an actual human being, and I've only beaten a computer twice, on the cheap sites with easier than normal games.  Please help me.


Avatar of Ray_Brooks

Why didn't you capture the queen with 6 Nxe4? when you've still got an extra pawn and a small lead in development. You picked up the knight but didn't take the opponents queen... what's going on? You've gotta look at your moves for longer if you didn't spot that! Yell

Can't bring myself to look at the rest, it's now irrelevent... you've a lost game.


Avatar of Etienne

Haha Ray, I too stopped a that part, then went to see the comments, and saw that I had nothing more to say. But since it's already said I decided to look a bit further, and we'll keep to the very basic stuff...

Why didn't you ever play cxb8=Q? it was hanging since move 10 until the end of the game. There is really nothing we can do to analyse beside telling you to pick up material when there's material to be picked up...


Avatar of Apoapsis
Thank you. I'm still learning and not very good. Your comments really help!Laughing!
Avatar of greyfox

you know friend there are certain principles in openings. there are good books from where you can learn this but let me share you some.

 

develop minor pieces first before heavy pieces. minor are B and N. heavy is R and Q.

 

as much as possible dont move a developed pieces twice. its called losing a tempo. this happened to both of you. you move the queen more than once.

 

at move 5 you wanted to defend the pawn at c2 which can be met by Bd3. developing a new piece with a threat.

 

you should have win this game becoz youre far ahead in development and a pawn up. think long enough and consider all the possible moves and pick up the best.

 

goodluck and play with all your heart.


Avatar of chaoschakra
hm. this game kinda just disturbed me a little. you made alot of big mistakes in the game, ALOT......... And the pawn on c7 was really bothering me. why didn't you get it in for a queen? though im not sure it would've made much difference.....
Avatar of Chessroshi
The only analysis of this game is to please get a book on chess basics. I personally suggest Play Winning Chess by Yasser Seirawan. This game was like watching someone use a bike for a pogo stick, I'm not sure if you are clear of what chess is supposed to accomplish. Get a book, get some basics, and get back there in the trenches with the rest of us hacks. Happy chess to you. 
Avatar of likesforests

6.Nce2?? - I was going to comment on your first few moves, but there's no point. 

 

When you played 5.Qe4, did you see your opponent could capture your queen with 5...Qxe4? Each move, you should spend 10 seconds double-checking if you're about to lose a piece or a pawn. It's called a blunder-check. I won't look any further because losing your queen almost always means losing the game against a typical opponent.


Avatar of KnightNotHorse
Comments on this game can only help if they are constructive.  I read comments like "Can't bring myself to look at the rest" and feel like poor xbigboy is getting stomped on...and for what?  Just so we can see how impressive and advanced certain individuals think they are?  Hey, here's a tip: we're not impressed.  This great site is full of excellent chess players, and I bet the majority of them *remember* what it was like to be new at the game.  Please be constructive when making comments...no reason to be otherwise.Wink

Avatar of Chessroshi
KnightNotHorse is right, we're getting a little harsh. To remedy this, I offer up my services to xbigboy as a chess tutor. We could play a game(s) and I would offer commentary on all my moves, as well as practical advice. You could also email me games to Chessroshi@aol.com in pgn format, and I would gladly look it over. I am an C-class player in the USCF, with a rating of 1560, which equates to a moderate strength tournament player.
Avatar of KingLeopold

Ok, maybe this will help you in your next game.

"DON"T TOUCH THE FIRST PIECE YOU SEE!"

 After you have found the move you want to make, SIT ON YOUR HANDS and look for a second good move and maybe even a third, then choose between the those moves.


Avatar of jayjules
move 18 you needed to eat rook then knight.........you gotta be hungry to eat pieces......................quit messing with the pawns................And the first post is 100% right as well.................
Avatar of TonightOnly

Since you have never won a game, I will start at the beginning.

 

People told you to recapture the Queen with your knight. This is because, in general, the more pieces you have, and the more powerful they are, the easier it is to win a game of chess. How powerful a piece is is directly proportional to its mobility. Since the Queen is the most mobile piece, it is the most valuable. After the Queen, the rook is the most powerful, then the knight and bishop come in tied, and then the lowly pawn. However, the pawn has a secret up its sleeve. When it reaches the eighth rank, it 'promotes' to a Queen, rook, knight, or bishop. It can do so by moving forward one square straight, or can capture diagonally, like it usually does, and then promote on that square. So on your tenth move, you could have captured the knight that was sitting on the b8 square and promoted to a Queen (or any other piece besides pawn or King). If you had done this, your move would have been designated as 10. cxb8Q. This is because it happened on your tenth move, the pawn started out on the 'c' file, x designates a capture made, it captured the piece on b8, and promoted to a Queen.

 

Sorry if this all seemed elementary, but if you didn't understand this, the rest would have gone over your head. If you have any other questions about rules or notation, check out the 'learn' link at the top of the page (second from the left), or just ask any of us. Hope this helped!


Avatar of Ray_Brooks
KnightNotHorse wrote: Comments on this game can only help if they are constructive.  I read comments like "Can't bring myself to look at the rest" and feel like poor xbigboy is getting stomped on...and for what?  Just so we can see how impressive and advanced certain individuals think they are?  Hey, here's a tip: we're not impressed.  This great site is full of excellent chess players, and I bet the majority of them *remember* what it was like to be new at the game.  Please be constructive when making comments...no reason to be otherwise.

Tell me then, what exactly is it that YOU  would find to analyse when the guy loses his queen on move 6? Analysis over. Anything further would clearly be a waste of key depressions. ( Especially, as I had already extolled the virtues of keeping your pieces and capturing the opponents, with this very player in a different forum: 

 

"It's "early doors" mate...don't worry about strategy, concentrate on capturing loose pieces and leaving none hanging yourself. That rook on h4 was hanging for six moves before you relocated it. I would think it best to think more in terms of tactics... this will stand you in good stead until the standard of opposition improves.")

 

This is, as the title suggests, a game analysis forum.


Avatar of Apoapsis
When I moved my knight, I figured my opponent would then take it, I'd take the queen with my king, and go from there. I quadruple check my moves so I was pretty sure I was making the right move.
Avatar of likesforests

I quadruple check my moves so I was pretty sure I was making the right move.

 

Ahh, that's good to know.

 

When I moved my knight, I figured my opponent would then take it, I'd take the queen with my king, and go from there.

 

I see. Your opponent wouldn't trade a queen for a knight. A queen is worth 9 pawns, a rook is worth 5 pawns, and a bishop or knight is worth 3 pawns. But even if they were worth the same value, NxQ wins his queen without giving up a knight. I noticed most of the people you're playing on  here are rated ~1200. Maybe you want to play 1-2 people rated <1000 so you can have the joy of winning your first game or two.


Avatar of likesforests

I read comments like "Can't bring myself to look at the rest" and feel like poor xbigboy is getting stomped on...and for what?  Just so we can see how impressive and advanced certain individuals think they are?  Hey, here's a tip: we're not impressed.

 

Ironic. This seem to be the first comment that didn't offer him any chess advice and it also stomps on people who are trying to help him.


Avatar of Ray_Brooks

No mocking intended...only honest opinion.

 

p.s. I grew up with, went to school with and many times played GM Stuart Conquest. I was his Chess Club captain and played board 2 in a very strong and successful junior side in the 80's. He was always brutally honest and because of this I knew I was getting the truth in an unsugared form. This was greatly appreciated and spurred me on.


Avatar of KnightNotHorse
likesforests wrote:

Ironic. This seem to be the first comment that didn't offer him any chess advice and it also stomps on people who are trying to help him.


 I am just a beginner myself, so I have no room to offer chess advice.  Just thought the tone was a bit harsh...but, what one sees as harsh, another sees as just being honest...to each his own.


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