This looks a little too early in the game to be saying that white has a win. Your central space allows you to add pressure and gain a small permanent advantage, but aside from that i'd say the position is equal
how to use your control over the center????
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I think black's position isn't weak, it's better developed than white in some ways. Though it seems you have the initiative for attack with pins and a bigger share of the board, but your a b rook and knight are doing nothing.
Id say you develop your last pieces and then exploit pins with double attacks etc. To take advantage of the center control you can put more pressure on e5 with rook & knight. with your current material there is nothing to gain there yet.
Nd2 would be my preferred start. Then maybe Rad1 Nc4. h3 may be useful too to prevent him from taking position
I agree. I think tkisdapoop is far overestimating white's position. How can you say white has control over the center? Can you name one square that is a strong point for white? I actually think black's position is fine. White has more advanced pawns, but black will move the f6 knight (once it's not pinned) and play f5 and have space on the kingside.
This game looks to be on it's 9th or 10th move... without any material having been exchanged ... White has an advantage in the center, but the center is far from decided -- IMO this is white clinging to his initial advantage, black still struggling to equalize. I wonder how a chess engine scores this position...
If I'm black I'm probably worried about you pushing d5... this locks up the center and cuts black's g7 bishop out of the action for the foreseeable future...
From the diagram, Black to move, Black has 1...Qe8 threatening to win the d4 pawn (2....Nxd4 3.Bxd7 Nxf3+) and breaking the pin on the N. But this doesn't prevent d5... in fact maybe it forces d5 -- so is that good or bad for black? has d5 been forced prematurely? I don't know... the position is probably worthy of further study! d5 looks strong for white, but I'm far from convinced that black can't free up his game, probably by pushing his c-pawn. I make no claim to seening all the tactics here.
To answer your question about how should white proceed... I think it's d5, lock up the center and then start pushing pawns up the queenside increasing your space advantage... But you can't expect black to just hold still and let you do it.
Thinking you are supposed to win from here is certainly admirable confidence... but don't count your chickens before they've hatched... both sides have things to work with IMO.
If I'm black I'm not scared in the least about white playing d5. Black would have a typical King's Indian Defense setup while white would be behind in that kind of game (c3 instead of c4, knight still on b1, light squared bishop off doing who knows what).
May 9, 2008
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Black to move.....nxd4. White is not better. In fact I would say white is down a pawn
erikido23 wrote:
Black to move.....nxd4. White is not better. In fact I would say white is down a pawn
Oh... I saw that but thinking black needed Qe8 first, but you're right... I think discussion of white's advantage comes crashing to a close!
May 9, 2008
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If black plays Nxp then BxB NxNch QxN QxB BxN and white wins peice for pawn.
Otherwise, black plays Qe8 I suppose, then black is playing a solid looking Ruy Lopez position, and it is too early to talk about anyone winning
Does black typically fianchetto the king side bishop in the Ruy Lopez? It looks more like a King's Indian Defense to me (except for white's pawn on c3 instead of c4).
May 9, 2008
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tonydal wrote: 1... Nxd4 doesn't work (2 Bxd7 Nxf3+ 3 Qxf3).
yeah but black is up a pawn ;D.
Nb4 threatens whites Q and wins his bishop - need somone better than me to say if it's a good move though, trade N for B here.
well thanks 4 all the helpful comments.. keep em com'em if you plz.. i seen d5 but i wanted 2 force the knight back so, b4 i was to do d5 i would of pushed b4, but this is the point when black pxp so.. i had little time and should of took advantage when i had the chance.. it ended in a draw though, so i guess i didnt do too bad.. i did miss a chance at a free peice later in this game though.. stupid and game costly mistake but yea.. pawn d4 answers my question.. forcing back ,then q-side pawns.. thanks..
i played a school match today against our rival school.. i played a good/great opening.. but when it came to me useing my domanate center control, i fell short and ended up drawing.. now as you will see by that board insert, that is not a drawing position 4 white.. so, i ask.. how would/can you exploit the centeral control?