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Okay. So I just finished playing this guy. We had been battling each other toe to toe, but then he ran out of time. So I'm thinking "Yay, I won right?" Nope.

*Sigh* Okay, I realize that yeah, if there no time limit the game would have been a draw anyways and blah blah blah but that's not the point! I played on the same level and did it in half the time. That should count for something, shoudn't it? If he had managed to make his one last move before I captured his pawn, then I'd (relucantly) accept a draw. But that's not what happened.

What do you think, fellow members? Should this be a win or a draw?

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It should be a draw, your opponent ran out of time and you have no material to mate. It's absolutely -impossible- for you to win this game.

These are the FIDE rules too.

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It's unfortunate, but you have to remember that when the clocks ran out, the game was a draw.

The fact that you had more time is irrelevant.  You had 13 minutes to spare, but maybe with better time management, you could have used those minutes to find a few better moves somewhere along the line.

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Without any forces whatcha gonna do? Call his king for coffee and spike the drink?

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mario149 wrote:

*Sigh* Okay, I realize that yeah, if there no time limit the game would have been a draw anyways and blah blah blah but that's not the point! I played on the same level and did it in half the time. That should count for something, shoudn't it? If he had managed to make his one last move before I captured his pawn, then I'd (relucantly) accept a draw. But that's not what happened.

What do you think, fellow members? Should this be a win or a draw?

Actually if there was no time limit he would have won (assuming the pieces that are visible are the only ones on the board and it is Black to move).

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Major_Catastrophe wrote:
mario149 wrote:

*Sigh* Okay, I realize that yeah, if there no time limit the game would have been a draw anyways and blah blah blah but that's not the point! I played on the same level and did it in half the time. That should count for something, shoudn't it? If he had managed to make his one last move before I captured his pawn, then I'd (relucantly) accept a draw. But that's not what happened.

What do you think, fellow members? Should this be a win or a draw?

Actually if there was no time limit he would have won (assuming the pieces that are visible are the only ones on the board and it is Black to move).

He was white, he would have lost.  The clock saved him, but he only has a king left, so no win for him.

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For the record, the final position is totally winning for Black- so you should be satisfied by the fact your opponent timed out.

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Mika_Rao wrote:

He was white, he would have lost.  The clock saved him, but he only has a king left, so no win for him.

Yeah by "He would have won" i was saying "Black would have won" and the OP would have lost :P

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pfren wrote:

For the record, the final position is totally winning for Black- so you should be satisfied by the fact your opponent timed out.

Isn't blacks king forced to move away from the pawn in his next move? Could you explain how black can win please? :) thanks in advance

 

ps: nice hair man ;)

Avatar of thecheesykid

Black plays h5 and kg3 h4 next, pawn promotes.

Avatar of ColonelKnight

@VanCamal ... Black's on top of the screen, so his pawn moves down towards the king.

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Thanks lol

Avatar of thecheesykid

Because it was black who forfeited on time. White would win on time if he had material, but white doesn't so it is a draw.

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One of the players had material to win but no time....the other (that is you Mario ) had time but no material...hence it is a draw...and you have not been cheated ..in fact you are fortunate to escape with a draw !!
Avatar of johnyoudell

Why do you say you would have captured the pawn? Doesn't s/he play h5 so that the pawn is protected by the king?

I am also a bit puzzled that with the pawn off the board you would accept a draw (with the rules as you imagined them). That suggests that you would think a game where each person moved their solitary king as quickly as possible until one ran out of time futile - which is what the insufficient material rule avoids.

There is no particular reason why you should have known the rule. But you do now so this game advanced your grasp of chess. And you also achieved a draw. Quite a success in itself given the rating difference.

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Horace44 wrote:

But the real question is: does your toilet have a flushmate III system? It's almost as cheap as an ad blocker.

I was going to ask this.. But bump then...

Avatar of Gemini_Incarnate

Black could have saved the pawn...

...Wow... I'm an idiot...

Sorry for wasting your time guys. Someone, please, lock this. Put me out of my misery. Yell

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