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Hey Friends!

Let me see if you can find the moves. It's mate in 7

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I’m am 3400 puzzles and 1900 hundred in blitz, cannot find the correct answer. This puzzle may be hard for some players at 2200 even maybe higher.
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I would start with 1. g3+ as shown in this line with three possible Black King moves. This is the best I can come up with without using computer assistance. However, this does not mean that my solution is the quickest since the position is tough to solve without computer assistance. It is possible that I had missed something here but at least I gave it a try.

Line 1. 1. g3+ Kh3
2. Qf5+ Ng4
3. Qh5 mate
Line 2. 1. g3+ Kh5
2. Qf5+ g5
3. g4+ Kh4
4. Kg2 (Rh1 mate next) Qd5+
5. f3 and Rh1 mate
Line 3. 1. g3+ Kg4
2. Kg2 Qd5+
3. f3+ Kg5
4. Be3+ Kh5
5. Rh1 mate

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ChessEnthusiast48 wrote:
I would start with 1. g3+ as shown in this line with three possible Black King moves. This is the best I can come up with without using computer assistance. However, this does not mean that my solution is the quickest since the position is tough to solve without computer assistance. It is possible that I had missed something here but at least I gave it a try.
Line 1. 1. g3+ Kh3
2. Qf5+ Ng4
3. Qh5 mate
Line 2. 1. g3+ Kh5
2. Qf5+ g5
3. g4+ Kh4
4. Kg2 (Rh1 mate next) Qd5+
5. f3 and Rh1 mate
Line 3. 1. g3+ Kg4
2. Kg2 Qd5+
3. f3+ Kg5
4. Be3+ Kh5
5. Rh1 mate

What about Kg5

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@EncrossisantIsBrilliant
If 1….Kg5, then
2. Be3+ Kh5
3. Qf5+ g5
4. g4+ Kh4
5. Kg2 Qd5+ (Rh1 mate next)
6. Qf3 Qxf3+
7. Kxf3 (Rh1 mate next) Nxg4
8. Rh1+ Nh2
9. Rxh2 mate
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ChessEnthusiast48 wrote:
@EncrossisantIsBrilliant
If 1….Kg5, then
2. Be3+ Kh5
3. Qf5+ g5
4. g4+ Kh4
5. Kg2 Qd5+ (Rh1 mate next)
6. Qf3 Qxf3+
7. Kxf3 (Rh1 mate next) Nxg4
8. Rh1+ Nh2
9. Rxh2 mate

It has to be Mate is 7 though, right?

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I won't give away the answer, but I don't like approaching this position as a "mate in 7" because the engine will reach mate in 7 by throwing away material in a engine-like way; I also don't like this because the intuitive candidate moves of g3+ and Qf5 are both overwhelmingly good for white.

It was a good exercise in calculation though; I'd approach this from that perspective, or from the mindset of this being a mating net (as it appears to be even without knowing it was mate in 7 with computer best defense).

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I’ve seen the refutation of my solution in the KG5 line above. It is still mate but difficult to find over the board. I like to exercise my mind solving these kinds of puzzles that involve calculation.
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I would play Re5 here. Creating the mating net, cutting off the king's escape squares - threatening Qh3#.

Black is forced to play ...QxR. White can play the intermezzo Qh3+. Black is forced to play ...Kg5, to which White responds by capturing Black's queen with BxQ.

That's as far as I looked, because that position is completely winning for White, so it would just be a matter of finding the mate from there (my visualization abilities pretty much end at this point, so I'd just wing it from there on out).

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move the castle up to the square above bishop first is what i'd do

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Only move is silent killer, Qf5!!

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Do you know the solution? Do you have a FULL guide to how to checkmate here?