Knight and Bishop mate = very importante

Setup a real position where it can take 33 moves. The position you have is not B and N vs King it’s drawn and just B and King etc. I mean B and K vs King etc. if I’m wrong here then I will make a video about this: I have the table bases and I’ve used engines to mate in 17 moves both engine vs engine etc

All of those are inevitable draws, I meant those too.

It's still 33.

In your position the knight is dominated in each of those positions put white king, bishop and knight anywhere on rank 1 and Black king on rank 8 and I bet you $100 I can mate in under 20 moves.

The real position is in the link I posted. Just follow the advice.

Yes, you're wrong. Don't think a video would be of much interest.

You're on.

Do you want to play the tablebase or me?

But it doesn't say too much about the longest mate without the constraints you've imposed on the pieces.

I've done it in 36-37 moves from this:

Well done, but it's a mate in 31. You still need practice.

It doesn't have to be perfect. I follow the simpler patterns even if it means more moves. Like starting from here:

This is technically the fastest way, but I would prefer doing it like this:

This pattern is easier. I know it's the opposite color bishop but still you can see the point.

Depends what you're trying to do; reliably mate or reliably mate in the shortest number of moves. I'm trying for the latter, but it has zilch to do with playing chess. I've never finished up in the endgame from the starting position.

No I can't really see the point.

You're doing two different things. One is mating with the lone king in the vicinity of a "right" corner and the other is mating with the lone king in the vicinity of a "wrong" corner.

If I followed your lines I'd vary for both players. (The second position appeared in Philidor's treatment. It's a zugzwang diagram. It should take 20 moves with White to play or 19 with Black.)

It is important. However it occurred (only) twice in my BLITZ games, once I failed to mate and once I mated. I don't fail to mate again, it is easy once you learned.

i like turtles

I can play you. I already know my first move but let’s play it out. It’s kinda stupid to try and do it in optimal play since we are not computers

So how do we do it?

You need to decide what time controls etc. (make it least enough for 20 moves at 10 sec. per move, but as long as you like) and send me an invite or whatever. I've hardly used the playing interface, so you might have to explain some things.

(I am pretty much a tablebase on this endgame btw., but I don't need to be for that position; it'll take 30 moves without me offering any opposition. I know my first 3 moves - not tablebase, after that it depends what you've played.)

I may need more time it’s been awhile since I’ve played around with the BN checkmate

Take all the time you need.

Enough talk set it up make it a 3 day daily or else no deal.