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TheAOD

I actually haven't been losing as much the past couple days but I like the title.  I still have a 50/50 record and I'd like to see that improve.   Here's another loss that I felt I played fairly well, but there was a maze of confusing combinations that led to an endgame of Queen vs. Rook and a much better opponent. 

poisonedcoffee

im realy good at losing and i think i would of lost that one to but well played theAOD against a much higher ranked player

TheAOD

HAHAHAHA

I'm sure you would have faired better....  I made some clear errors.  But thank you for your kind words.

poisonedcoffee

no problem but he does look like a good player and i would of struggled.

i just had a good idea can i become a chess bum?

TheAOD

Like a beach bum?  I'm sure there are places where you could play chess for money and live on the street....  I don't know if it would offer the creature comforts but you may be able to play a lot of chess.

Anthony

poisonedcoffee

yeh like a beach bum :) it would be a good life and your right there wouldnt be much creature comfort but it would be fun. i could play in the park :)

anaxagoras

The QGA accepted is a lot of fun because so many Black players try to keep the pawn.  If you know what you're doing with the White pieces, you can really punish them for their folly.

The standard move for White is 2. Nf3 because it prevents Black's early e5, e.g. 2. e3 e5, and there is no benefit for White in 3. dxe5 Qxd1 4. Kxd1 etc.  But there a couple ways for Black to keep the pawn after 2. Nf3, but not with positional advantage.  Your move 2. e3 is very playable because it pretty much guarantees the recapture of the c4 pawn and hides a nasty trap, e.g. 2. e3 b5? 3. a4 c6? 4. axb5 cxb5 5. Qf3!

4. Nc3, I would just play Bxc4 here.  Notice that Bxc4 futhers your goal of castling while Nc3 doesn't?

5...Bd7, I agree that this move is a little funny, but it's not bad.  I think Black was contemplating b5 because of your delay of Bxc4, and Bc6 would be a useful square for the bishop if you did recapture on c4.

8. b3?  I really hate this move.  You're right that there's no concern over the a4 square, but your pawn chain comment shows that you're missing the point of plaing the QG, which is the liberation of your e-pawn to e4 by the removal of Black's d-pawn with c4.  Pawn chains are nice, but a big pawn center at d4 and e4 is better.  Notice that after 8. e4 you would liberate the troublesome QB.

8...Bc6 and Black takes the e4 square for himself.

9. a4?  It's important to know what your own plans are.  Remember the center?  I would've liked to see 9. Bb2 here as a logical followup to your previous move.  Even if it's not the best plan, at least it's consistent.

9...Ne4 threw you into a panic.  You make a wierd comment about not wanting to play Nxe4 because you had special plans for your knight on the queenside, but note your earlier comment about not knowing what that plan was.  When your opponent throws a move like this at you, do your very best not to simply react.  Once you simply react to your opponent, they take the initiative and you lose sight of what you need to do.  I find it curious that you rejected 10. Bb2, calling it passive, because it was a very reasonable way to develop a new piece and parry the threat to your hanging knight.  "Passive" seems to be a catch-all phrase that newer players use to dismiss moves that don't directly attack something.  If you want a real example of passivity, look at your 9th move.

10. Ne2, I like that you're still looking for mean and nasty things to do to your opponent, e.g. Nf4-Bxe6-Nxe6.  Still, completing your development is a more important thing to focus on here.

10...Bb4, turning the thumb screws on the dark-square holes.

14. Ra2?  I think you see that Rb1 was called for.  Avoid moving your rooks to awkward places where they have little hope of connecting with their buddy rook.

17...a5, Black stakes out an outpost of granite for his advanced knight.  Remember the holes on the dark squares?  What caused them?  b3 and a4.

18...Rad8, on the contrary your bishop is as well placed as possible.

19. d5? this is a great way to destroy your central space advantage.  Rd1 is the way to go.

26...d4, here comes the passed-pawn of deathtm.

29...Rfe8, I would resign here.

Anyway, you put up a great fight and hopefully learned a thing or two.  A couple of suggestions: play through some QG games to get a feel for how the experts handle it.  But more importantly, work on developing your pieces, getting the big pawn center, and having a consistent plan.  It's really strange the way you talk about your thoughts in the game as if you're interpreting the thoughts of another person.

Thunersee

I don't think you had to resign.  He probably had you, but at no point in this game do you appear overwhelmed.  Keep at it!

poisonedcoffee

yeh i agree u did well in the game and was never realy overwhelmed :)

im sure anax comments were a big help as well theres just so many i dont know where to start.

Thunersee

Here's an example of why not to give up when getting smothered by a higher ranked player... There's an opening, a middlegame, and the endgame - and you only have to win the endgame!  The other two just help...  Black plays a bad opening in this one, but recovers in middlegame... against a superior player.

TwoMove

There is something wrong with my browser, the king didn't move when you castled on move 5 Surprised.

anaxagoras

Yeah, that's because black didn't castle.  He played Rf8? Frown

TheAOD

anaxagoras wrote:

4. Nc3, I would just play Bxc4 here.  Notice that Bxc4 futhers your goal of castling while Nc3 doesn't?

8. b3?  I really hate this move.  You're right that there's no concern over the a4 square, but your pawn chain comment shows that you're missing the point of plaing the QG, which is the liberation of your e-pawn to e4 by the removal of Black's d-pawn with c4.  Pawn chains are nice, but a big pawn center at d4 and e4 is better.  Notice that after 8. e4 you would liberate the troublesome QB.

9. a4?  It's important to know what your own plans are.  Remember the center?  I would've liked to see 9. Bb2 here as a logical followup to your previous move.  Even if it's not the best plan, at least it's consistent.

9...Ne4 threw you into a panic.  You make a wierd comment about not wanting to play Nxe4 because you had special plans for your knight on the queenside, but note your earlier comment about not knowing what that plan was.  When your opponent throws a move like this at you, do your very best not to simply react.  Once you simply react to your opponent, they take the initiative and you lose sight of what you need to do.  I find it curious that you rejected 10. Bb2, calling it passive, because it was a very reasonable way to develop a new piece and parry the threat to your hanging knight.  "Passive" seems to be a catch-all phrase that newer players use to dismiss moves that don't directly attack something.  If you want a real example of passivity, look at your 9th move.

14. Ra2?  I think you see that Rb1 was called for.  Avoid moving your rooks to awkward places where they have little hope of connecting with their buddy rook.

18...Rad8, on the contrary your bishop is as well placed as possible.

19. d5? this is a great way to destroy your central space advantage.  Rd1 is the way to go.


Where do I start....

4.Nc3 I want to develop some pieces before I take.  I'm concerned that he'll attack the bishop and we'll enter the middlegame before I castle and develop pieces.

8.b3?  I didn't think this was so bad.  I'm glad to hear it actually.  It probably is a mistake I make more often than I'm comfortable admitting. As for 8.e4 I will try this in future games and see if I can't get a better result. 

9.a4? I think that I had a plan but quickly forgot it because of 9....Ne4.

9...Ne4 Did I panic....Maybe. I think I just felt stifled. I had a plan and it was over before it began really.  10.Bb2 I honestly don't know why I thought this was bad but I remember looking at it on the analysis board and saying, "No that could cause some problems."  Maybe I made a mistake in my thinking concerning that move.

14.Ra2?  Maybe I had a lapse of judgement here.  I think I was worried about something that couldn't happen after 14. Rb1.  like a knight fork that he could trap my rook somehow.  Realistically it would take him several moves to get his knight in position.  and even then I don't see how he could do it.

18.....Ra8 I agree that's the best place for my bishop.  However, it's got nowhere to go and nothing to do.  I hate endgames where my bishop is rendered useless. 

19.d5? bad move as I have said... What's good about Rd1 if I'm not going to be moving the pawn?

I thank you for all your analysis Anaxagoras.  It's been very insightful.  Although tough on me I do feel that I've learned alot about QG Accepted and maybe chess in general.

Anthony

gigliott2000

TheAOD,

One thing that is very important in chess, in my opinion, is to not play "hopeful chess."  you said in your commentary, "i made this move to give my opponent the opportunity to make a mistake."  this is hopeful chess.  you shouldn't ever make a move for that reason.  you should make the move that improves your position and keeps tempo.  always assume that your opponent will make the strongest possible next move. 

just my opinion, but it has helped me get better recently, after i saw a lesson based on this in the chess mentor section of this site. 

anaxagoras

Yeah, I was tough on the analysis, but that's why I also gave you props for a hard fight.

What's good about Rd1 if I'm not going to be moving the pawn?

You're not going to move the pawn, yet.  Rd1 is good for a couple of reasons:

1. It develops an undeveloped piece.  Otherwise your rook is a spectator.

2. It supports your center pawn mass.  Big pawn centers don't have to advance in order to dominate, their mere presence is enough to really cramp the opponent.

3. If Black plays c5 to attack your center and pin your d-pawn in front of your queen, you can advance d5 advantageously.

TheAOD

Anaxagoras,

I see that now. I guess I generally thought it was better for your rooks to be on files that would eventually open up.  However, I suppose that is better than sitting next to my king.

Gigliott,

I agree.  I think I've given that same advice before.  We all play hopeful chess though.  I'm sure if I saw something better it would not have been the move I made.  I try to look for opportunities and sometimes you just don't see it.  I'm sure if we looked at some of my wins we'd see some good forceful play at times but that's not in the scope of this thread.  I'm really trying to recognize the weak moves.  I think I sometimes see good moves, but I ussually don't think my bad moves are bad when I'm making them.

Anthony

gigliott2000

all good points.  we all do it.  the best we can do is try though, right? 

TheAOD

Here's another loss.  This one is particularly embarrasing.  clearly I fell for a trap here....  Is this a common trap?  Does it have a name?  What are some good ideas to prevent or avoid this trap?  How can I use this trap on others, or am I the only moron to fall for this kind of trap?

anaxagoras

Yes, that is a common trick you fell victim to.  Remember, an attack on the flank is best met with an attack in the center.  Therefore, 10. e4 should make your opponent regret his trap because it opens the e-file on his uncastled king.

TheAOD

So just ignore the knight?