My best mate ever! Like a "tactic's" solution

tj2112
I was black.  One of the first times I have actually put together a multi piece coordinated mate.  Used a rook sacrifice to start things off.

blueemu
Nice game. Here's my closest approach to a "tactics solution".

 

tj2112

Very nice!  The queen sacrifice was something I wouldn't have thought of.   I believe better players like yourself are willing to lose your queens for position and not just for attacking.  It's a level I hope to get to myself.  In my game it is one of the few times my win wasn't just dumb luck!  I actually saw how the moves would flow together.

ArtNJ

Re:  OP, the combo just doesn't work.  31. rg3 and you've got nothing except a loss.  At your rating, I personally think its better to not sacrifice unless you can see to the end, because your attacking instincts aren't developed enough to sacrifice on a hunch.  

tj2112

Thanks ArtNJ!  That's my point.  It didn't feel like a hunch.  I "saw" that it was a winning combination.  That's why I took the time to post it.  If it had just been a lucky crap shoot I wouldn't have posted it.  I have been doing endless C.com tactics and this type of sacrifice isn't uncommon in the solutions.  So even though my rating is what it, (actually proud to be in the 900s.  Up from the 500s months ago) I have been exposed to more advanced concepts on the chess board.  And anyway,  it obviously DID work didn't it?

smarty_pant

Nice!thumbup.png

ghost_of_pushwood

But it was a lucky crap shoot.  As Art just pointed out.

ATV-STEVE

In chess there is nearly always someone better you.

Those who are higher up the pyramid do well to offer advice but should

respect the enjoyment others deride from the game.

Prometheus_Fuschs
Although a nice mate, it wasn’t forced, instead of 31 Kh2 white could have played 31 Rg3 blocking the queen’s check, by then you’d be losing.
NMinSixMonths
My best mate. I actually had a similar mate twice but I only have the score for this one.

 

tj2112

So...  Just because he didn't move 31. rg3 (certainly a better move I admit) my mate was a lucky fluke?

NMinSixMonths
tj2112 wrote:

So...  Just because he didn't move 31. rg3 (certainly a better move I admit) my mate was a lucky fluke?

 

Not a lucky fluke. A miscalculation. You just missed a move, happens to everyone. The important thing was that you calculated all the way to mate.

tj2112

Didn't HE or She miss the move?  I'm confused.  Or are you saying I missed it in the analysis?

NMinSixMonths

If you didn't miss that move then the fact that you stilled went ahead with the sac is called hope chess. Otherwise, you missed the move regardless of whether your opponent also missed the same move.

 

It's part of improving. Sometimes you will think you had an amazing plan or played a stunning sacrificial mate but when you analyse the position later with a computer or stronger player you will be shown everything you missed.

tj2112

Thanks everyone for your input!  I am glad I posted and will keep trying!  

DamonevicSmithlov

Was it a blitz game? I was also gonna post about blocking the check with 31. Rg3 and there r no further checks. Ur down a rook and knight in a simplified endgame. Somebody else mentioned it I see.

 

tj2112

Hi DS,  It was a Rapid game.  Yes after looking at the game more closely I see that had he made that move I was in some deep doo doo.  I guess it was satisfying though because I felt that I was kind of backed into a losing game and ended up pulling it out,  I got lucky that he moved his king instead.

DamonevicSmithlov

It looked like a fun finish. Well done.

ArtNJ
tj2112 wrote:

Hi DS,  It was a Rapid game.  Yes after looking at the game more closely I see that had he made that move I was in some deep doo doo.  I guess it was satisfying though because I felt that I was kind of backed into a losing game and ended up pulling it out,  I got lucky that he moved his king instead.

 

As we have discussed, 31. rg3 shuts down the attack.  However, 31. kh1 would have led to an interesting situation.  Computer says its a draw, but I think it would be totally fine to envision it in your head and say, "I must have something here or at worst its a draw".  Black picks up the rook, is threatening to regain the knight or take h3, and white's king is wide open.  

Numquam
tj2112 schreef:
I was black.  One of the first times I have actually put together a multi piece coordinated mate.  Used a rook sacrifice to start things off.

 

I wouldn't call that a multi piece coordinated mate. You tricked your opponent in a lost position. The rook sacrifice doesn't work, but you were lost anyway.

After 24...e4 blundering the bishop, you were losing. 24....Bc5 attacking the rook would have won for you.